Descendants of Louis Thibault

Orphan Trains

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Between 1854 and 1929 an estimated 200,000 orphaned, abandoned, and homeless children were placed out during, what is known today as, the Orphan Train Movement. The name is derived from the children's situations, though they were not all orphans, and the mode of transportation used to move them across forty-seven states and Canada. Many of these children were adopted and grew up in loving homes, but many were treated as servants and worse.

Our family was lucky, when Emily Gendron Thibault died between 1875 and 1879 she left behind seven children, the oldest being between 12 and 16 and the youngest being between new born and four years old. Fabien was able to hold together the family, probably with the help of his siblings and his older children. In 1879 Fabien married again to Celina Miville Deschenes who died sometime before 1884 leaving behind three young children as well as her step children some who were still fairly young. Again Fabien managed to keep his family together and remarried a third time to Claire Banville in 1884.

Life for many of these orphan children weren't good, newspaper stories titled “Babies Sold Like Sheep,” telling readers that the New York Foundling Hospital “has for years been shipping children in car-loads all over the country, and they are given away and sold like cattle.” Charities attempted to guarantee successful orphan train placements by agreeing to remove children from failed placements and, where necessary, transport the child back to the charity’s Eastern office at the charity’s expense. Many children placed out west had survived on the streets of New York, Boston or other large eastern cities and generally were not the passive, obedient, respectful children that some families expected; this prompted placement changes and

returns to the East.

Numerous factors came together to end the orphan train movement in 1929. One factor was that railroad expansion in the United States was complete and most railroads ended subsidized fares provided to charities moving children. Another critical and underlying factor was that the need for labor which drove the initial success of orphan train placements in the West was no longer as great. The trains had relocated children to rural areas where their labor was needed on the frontier.

Another factor that contributed to the end of the orphan train movement was the backlash from the Western states. They reacted to their role as “a dumping ground for dependents from other states” by passing legislation limiting or prohibiting placement of out-of-state children. Many of these states had become urbanized and were facing their own child care and child placement issues. Cities such as Chicago and St. Louis began to experience the same problems in caring for neglected and destitute children that New York, Boston and Philadelphia had experienced in the mid-1800s. These cities began to seek ways to

care for their own orphan populations. In 1895, Michigan passed a statute prohibiting out-of-state children from local placement without payment of a bond guaranteeing that children placed in

Michigan would not become a public charge in the State. Similar laws were passed by Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri and Nebraska. Negotiated agreements between one or more New York charities and several western states allowed the continued placement of children in these states. Such agreements included large bonds as security for placed children. In 1929, however, these agreements expired and were not renewed as charities changed their child care support strategies.

Lastly, the need for the orphan train movement decreased as legislation was passed providing in-home family support. Charities began developing programs to support destitute and needy families limiting the need for intervention to place out children. State and local governments funded foster care for orphans while compulsory education and anti-child labor statutes were also being passed.

Happy Boxing Day

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Thank you to all our Veterans

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Coming to Amerikay

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Patrick O'Conner was born about 1805 in Ireland he married Bridget McNamara sometime before 1830. Their first child was a daughter named Anne. She was born before 1830. She is my great great grandmother. Anne had at least 5 siblings 4 of whom were born in Ireland. Edward was born about 1836, Bridget 1837, Patrick 1840, and Alexander in 1846 all in Ireland. Lastly, Mary was born in 1849 in Vermont. This puts the time of immigration between 1846 and 1849. 1847 was the beginning of the Potato Blight. Given that there was such a large number of years between Anne's birth and Edwards, it is quite possible that there were other children who died, perhaps during the Irish famine or perhaps they died in route to the US. We can find no record of where the O'Conner's may have come from in Ireland but they first show up in the 1850 Census in Newbury, Vermont. Anne was not listed with them, instead she was found in Walpole, NH. Anne was next found in 1860 in Rockingham, VT having wed Thomas Lynch. Thomas Lynch was born in 1830 in Limerick Co. Ireland.

There are no records of a family of O'Conner's arriving by boat in America, perhaps they came in through Canada as during the Famine many families were thrown out of their homes and lands by landlords who packed them off on boats to Canada where the families then made their way to the US. Chicago and Vermont were common areas where the Irish entered as they states bordered the US.

Reading: Galloway Bay Mary Pat Kelly http://www.marypatkelly.com/content/index.asp

The Civil War and Patrick O'Conner

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O'Conner, Patrick, Age: 20, cred. Bennington, VT; service: enl 8/15/61, m/i 9/21/61, Pvt, Co. A, 4th VT INF, pow, Savage's Station, 6/29/62, prld 9/24/62, dis/dsb 10/16/62 Born: abt 1841, Unknown; Died: unknown; Buried: Unknown

From this we gleam that Patrick O'Conner age 20 enlisted in the 4th Vermont Infantry on 8/15/1861 and on 6/29/62 he was taken POW at Savage's Station to be released on 9/4/1862. He was listed as died of disease 10/16/1862

The 4th Regiment, composed of members from the eastern part of the state, was mustered into the U. S. service for a term of three years at Brattleboro, Sep. 21, 1861, and ordered at once to Washington. Co. A was composed mainly of members from Bennington county, and Windsor, Orange, Orleans, Windham, Washington and Caledonia counties were all represented. The regiment spent just a few days at Washington and moved on to join the other Vermont regiments, stationed at Camp Advance, Va. It was assigned to the Vermont Brigade. Gen. W. T. Brooks, 2nd division. Gen. William F. Smith, 6th Corps, and remained with this corps during the entire war. The original members not reenlisted were mustered out, Sep. 30, 1864. and the 1st, 2nd and 3d companies of sharpshooters were assigned to the regiment, Feb. 25, 1865. The losses of the regiment were so heavy that in spite of the large numbers of reenlisted men and recruits, it was consolidated into eight companies on Feb. 25, 1865. The 4th is mentioned by Col. Fox in his "Regimental Losses" as one of the "three hundred fighting regiments." The active service of the command opened with the campaign on the Peninsula early in 1862, followed by the battles of Antietam and Fredericksburg of that year, the "Mud March," Chancellorsville, Gettysburg, the Mine Run campaign, the Wilderness, Spotsylvania, Cold Harbor, the siege of Petersburg, the campaign against Early in the valley of the Shenandoah in the summer of 1864, and the final capture of Petersburg. The first winter was spent near the Chain bridge over the Potomac ; the second near Falmouth, Va. ; the winter of 1863-64 at Brandy Station, Va., and the final winter in the trenches before Petersburg. In all of the varied services of the Vermont Brigade, the 4th always played its part with steadiness and courage, meeting losses that were almost overwhelming. After the grand review at Washington in May, 1865, the regiment was mustered out (July 13), and received the welcome orders for the homeward journey.

The Battle of Savage's Station took place on June 29, 1862, in Henrico County, Virginia, as fourth of the Seven Days Battles (Peninsula Campaign) of the American Civil War. The main body of the Union Army of the Potomac began a general withdrawal toward the James River. Confederate Brig. Gen. John B. Magruder pursued along the railroad and the Williamsburg Road and struck Maj. Gen. Edwin Vose Sumner's II Corps (the Union rearguard) with three brigades near Savage's Station, while Maj. Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson's divisions were stalled north of the Chickahominy River. Union forces continued to withdraw across White Oak Swamp, abandoning supplies and more than 2,500 wounded soldiers in a field hospital.

Initial contact between the armies occurred at 9 a.m. on June 29. On the farm and orchards owned by a Mr. Allen, about 2 miles (3.2 km) west of Savage's Station, two Georgia regiments from the brigade of Brig. Gen. George T. Anderson fought against two Pennsylvania regiments from Sumner's corps for about two hours before disengaging, suffering 28 casualties to the Pennsylvanians' 119. The highest ranking casualty was Confederate Brig. Gen. Richard Griffith, who was mortally wounded by a Union shell fragment. Magruder, who was alleged to be under the influence of morphine to combat a bout of indigestion, was confused and became concerned that he might be attacked by a superior force. He requested reinforcements from Lee, who ordered two brigades from the division of Maj. Gen. Benjamin Huger to assist, under the condition that they would have to be returned if they were not engaged by 2 p.m.
Meanwhile, Jackson was not advancing as Lee had planned. He was taking time to rebuild bridges over the Chickahominy and he received a garbled order from Lee's chief of staff that made him believe he should stay north of the river and guard the crossings. These failures of the Confederate plan were being matched on the Union side, however. Heintzelman decided on his own that his corps was not needed to defend Savage's Station, Sumner's and Franklin's being sufficient, so he decided to follow the rest of the army without informing his fellow generals.

Magruder was forced to give up the two brigades from Huger's division at 2 p.m. and was faced with the problem of attacking Sumner's 26,600 men with his own 14,000. He hesitated until 5 p.m., when he sent only two and a half brigades forward. Brig. Gen. Joseph B. Kershaw commanded the left flank, Brig. Gen. Paul J. Semmes the center, and Col. William Barksdale (Griffith's Brigade) the right. Franklin and Brig. Gen. John Sedgwick were on a reconnaissance to the west of Savage's Station when they saw Kershaw's brigade approaching. Their immediate assumption was that these were men from Heintzelman's corps, but they soon realized their mistake. This was the first indication of Heintzelman's unannounced departure and Sumner, for one, was particularly outraged, refusing to speak to Heintzelman the following day. Union artillery opened fire and pickets were sent forward to meet the assault

Magruder's attack was accompanied by the first armored railroad battery to be used in combat. Earlier in June, General Lee had hoped to counter the approach of McClellan's siege artillery by rail by using his own weapon: a 32-pounder Brooke naval rifle, shielded by a sloping casemate of railroad iron, nicknamed the "Land Merrimack." It was pushed by a locomotive at about the speed of the marching infantry. However, even with this impressive weapon, which outgunned anything the Federal artillerists possessed, the results of Magruder's decision to send only part of his smaller force against a much larger enemy were predictable.
The first Union unit to engage was one of Sedgwick's brigades, Philadelphians led by Brig. Gen. William W. Burns, but his defensive line proved inadequate to cover the two brigade front of Kershaw and Semmes. Sumner managed this part of the battle erratically, selecting regiments for combat almost at random. He sent in two of Burns's regiments, and then the 1st Minnesota Infantry from another brigade in Sedgwick's division, and finally one regiment each from two different brigades in Brig. Gen. Israel B. Richardson's division. By the time all of these units reached the front, the two sides were at rough parity—two brigades each. Although Magruder had been conservative about his attack, Sumner was even more so. Of the 26 regiments he had in his corps, only 10 were engaged at Savage's Station.

The fighting turned into a bloody stalemate as darkness fell and strong thunderstorms began to move in. The Land Merrimack bombarded the Union front, with some of its shells reaching as far to the rear as the field hospital. The final actions of the evening were by the Vermont Brigade, commanded by Colonel William T. H. Brooks, of Brig. Gen. William F. "Baldy" Smith's division. Attempting to hold the flank south of the Williamsburg Road, the Vermonters charged into the woods and were met with murderous fire, suffering more casualties of any brigade on the field that day. The battle was a stalemate at the cost of about 1,500 casualties on both sides, plus 2,500 previously wounded Union soldiers who were left to be captured when their field hospital was evacuated.

Patrick O'Conner was brother to Anne O'Conner our great great grandmother. Anne married Thomas Lynch. Daughter Mary Lynch married James Keefe. Their daughter was our grandmother Josephine Keefe.

Books to read: My Name Is Mary Sutter by Robin Oliveira

The Civil War and James Leary

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James Leary
Great Great Grandfather
m. Mary Murphy
daughter Margaret Leary
married Matthew Patrick O'Neil
daughter Mary O'Neil
married Joseph John Thibault

Regimental History
FIFTY-FIRST REGIMENT
MASSACHUSETTS VOLUNTEER MILITIA
(INFANTRY) NINE MONTHS

The 51st Regt. Mass. Vol. Mil. was raised largely in
southern Worcester County as a part of Massachusetts' quota of
nine months troops. Its rendezvous was Camp Wool, Worcester,
Mass., where the recruits gathered in the early fall of 1862,
Col. George H. Ward of the 15th Mass. Regt., who had lost a
leg at Ball's Bluff, being commandant of the camp. The
companies of the 51st were mustered in between the 25th of
September and the 14th of October. A. B. R. Sprague, an
officer of the 25th Mass. Inf., was commissioned colonel, and
under his command the regiment left Camp Wool, Nov. 25,
1862, proceeding by rail to Boston, where it immediately
embarked on the transport MERRIMAC bound for North Carolina.
After a rough voyage it reached Beaufort, N. C., Nov. 30,
proceeding thence by rail to Newbern. Here it was assigned to
Amory's Brigade. Not until Dec. 5 were arms issued to the
regiment and the men instructed in their use.

On Dec 11, the 51st was assigned to the Goldsboro
expedition. Proceeding with it as far as Beaver Creek Bridge,
it was delayed there to guard the crossing at that
important point. Continuing on after the main body on Sunday
the 14th, it overtook the column Tuesday the 16th while it was
engaged in the battle of Whitehall. During the battle of
Goldsboro, Dec. 17, the 51st guarded the wagon train and was
not in action. It returned to its barracks on the Trent River
near Newbern on Sunday the 21st.

Company "G" was sent to Brice's Ferry, Dec. 30, to do
guard and outpost duty, and there remained during the entire
period of the regiment's service in North Carolina. On
Jany. 17, 1863, seven companies took part in an expedition to
Pollocksville, five of them proceeding as far as Young's Cross
Roads, and having a skirmish with the enemy at White Oak
Creek, returning to Newbern, Jany. 21.

During the month of February the regiment suffered much
from the ravages of disease and especially from an epidemic of
cerebro-spinal meningitis, a number of men dying of the latter
disease. Early in March several companies of the regiment
were distributed at various points along the railroad between
Newbern and Morehead City, while others were stationed at
Beaufort and Evans' Mills, Colonel Sprague being assigned to
the command of the District of Beaufort, which included Fort
Macon. Company " C " became a part of the garrison of this
fort. On May 4, the regiment returned to Newbern much
improved in health, and reoccupied its old camp on the Trent
River.

On June 24, 1863, the 51st was ordered to Fort Monroe.
Arriving at this place on the 27th, it was ordered to report
to General Dix at White House where a force was being
collected to attack Richmond. Arriving at White House, June
28, it was almost immediately ordered back to Fort Monroe.
Here the colonel offered the services of the regiment for
emergency duty until the Confederate army under General Lee
should be driven back from Pennsylvania, and it was
immediately transferred to Baltimore, Md., where it remained
from July 1 to July 6, searching houses for concealed arms,
guarding prisoners from Gettysburg, etc.

On the date last mentioned it was attached to a
provisional brigade under Brig. Genl. H. S. Briggs, the other
regiments being the 8th, 39th, and 46th Massachusetts.
Proceeding to Sandy Hook, Maryland Heights, and Fort Duncan,
opposite Harper's Ferry, it remained at the latter place until
July 12 when it started for Funkstown, Md., in front of the
Confederate position at Williamsport, and here on the
following day it joined the 1st Corps, Army of the Potomac.

The night following its arrival, the Confederate army
recrossed the Potomac. On the 15th the regiment was sent with
the 1st Corps to Berlin, Md., where the Union army was
preparing to cross the Potomac in pursuit of Lee. Here the
51st was detached from the corps and ordered to Massachusetts
for muster out. Arriving at Worcester, Mass., July 21, the men
were furloughed for six days, after which they reassembled and
were mustered out of the service July 27, 1863.

Source: Massachusetts Soldiers, Sailors & Marines in the Civil War
Battles Fought
Fought on 14 Dec 1862 at Kinston, NC.
Fought on 16 Dec 1862 at Whitehall, NC.

Our German Heritage

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Hans August John Gerull was born in 1895 in Memel (Klaipeda) Germany to Fredrich Gerull and Marie Meier. Not much is known about Frederich and Marie other than we know they had at least three children. Hans John and Frederich and an unknown boy who may have disappeared in the first World War. John Gerull left home sometime before 1917 when he was found to be registered for WWI in Boston, MA. Again he registered on April 27, 1942 for WWII where it was listed that he was 5'8" and 185 lbs living at 17 Corbett Avenue, Dedham, MA. He worked for General Sea Foods, Boston, MA. December 19, 1938 he became a U.S. Citizen dropping Hans August and going by John.

On April 14, 1923 he was listed on a crew change record for the German ship Aval as signing on the ship. On July 4, 1923 he was recorded on the ship Westphalia arriving from Hamburg. This was the Westphalia's maiden voyage. http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=westr. It left Hamburg on June 21 arriving in New York on July 4. He was listed as Fireman. On January 21, 1924 he arrived in Boston from Tampico, Mexico aboard the Beacon.

In 1920 he was found living at 14 Dixwell Street, Boston, MA as a boarder with his friend and fellow shipmate Max Plonske and another fellow Ernest Heim. About 1923 he married Josephine Rose Keefe Baum, widow of Harry Baum.

More Witchcraft, Young Love and Banishment Our 9th Great Grand Aunt

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PIERRE MORIN dit BOUCHER married MARIE-MADELEINE MARTIN in Acadia about 1661. They probably married at Port-Royal. Pierre was born in Normandy, France, about 1634. His home Parish in France remains unknown. Marie-Madeleine was born about 1642 at Port-Royal, Acadia. She is the daughter of Pierre Martin and Catherine Vigneau and sister of our 9th Great Grandmother Andree Martin wife of Francois Pellerin.

Pierre was a laborer, and owned 3 cows, 4 sheep, and had 1 arpent of land in cultivation at the time of the 1671 census at Port-Royal. By 1680 they had moved to Beaubassin. He is listed as a tenant of Michel Le Neuf, Sieur de Valliere on 20 March, 1682 at Beaubassin. On the 1686 census at Beaubassin they owned 15 cows, 8 sheep, 12 hogs and had 30 arpents of land. (An English acre is 5/6th of an arpent; 86 arpents equal 100 English acres.) Quite a bit is known of Pierre and Marie and they have an incredible tale. In 1685, Marie-Madeleine was one of the witnesses against Jean Campagna in his trial for Witchcraft at Beaubassin. Her age was given as 43 years. Campagna had been accused by his neighbors at Beaubassin of the crime. Campagna was acquitted and released. Three years after the Witchcraft trial, the Morin family would find themselves on the receiving end of the Law. (Interesting of note here Andree Martin and Francois Pellerin's daughter married the son of Laurent Godin grandson of none other than our Pierre Godin who also accused Campagna of witchcraft.)

They were banished from Beaubassin, Acadia in September, 1688. Pierre and Marie-Madeleine had a son Louis who was about 25 years old when he and the daughter of the above-mentioned Michel Le Neuf fell in love. One thing led to another, as it always does, and the 17 year old girl, named Marie-Josephe Le Neuf, was discovered to be pregnant in the Spring of 1688. Marie-Josephe LeNeuf was obviously close to the Morin family. She is named as Godmother on two Baptisms of Morin children.

She was the daughter of an important family -- the Le Neufs considered themselves as such. Louis Morin was the son of a mere laborer. Louis was arrested. His parents and brothers and sisters and two brothers-in-law, their children---19 persons in all---were arrested. They were tried by the local Parish Priest, a Father Trouve. Trouve acted for Le Neuf, who hoped to keep the scandal as quiet as possible; how he hoped he could keep it under wraps in such a small and interconnected community as Beaubassin.

Father Trouve organized everything, including a list of witnesses against all 19 of the conspirators... for that is how they were portrayed. All 19 were judged guilty. The property of all 19 was confiscated; and all 19 were exiled from Beaubassin and Acadia. Their property was awarded to Michel Le Neuf. (Michel Le Neuf tried to confiscate all Pierre Thibodeaus property in 1690. He was not successful with Thibodeau.) Louis Morin was sent to France and sentenced to a lifetime of service in the Royal Navy. He was sent on the ship La Fripone in September of 1688. He is said to have died shortly after. The priest, Father Trouve, wrote a letter, (which still exists), extolling his own actions as necessary and just. He even suggests that the sentences had been lenient, considering the offense.

Father Trouve felt compelled to justify what he had participated in for he became so unpopular in Beaubassin that he was forced to abandon his Parish. When he attempted to land at Les-Mines, the citizens there refused to let him come ashore. Trouve was forced to continue on to Port-Royal.

Two years later, in October of 1690, Mathieu de Goutin wrote a letter to the Court in France. In this letter, De Goutin wrote that Father Trouve had brought the charges against Louis Morin, had heard witnesses, had pronounced judgment, and had imprisoned Louis Morin and exiled all the others charged. De Goutin charged that Father Trouve had done this despite the fact that Kings Officers had been available. Trouve had obtained an Order that the entire family be exiled on the pretext that one of the brothers-in-law had 'spoken ill' of Father Trouve, and had mentioned the name of the "gentlewoman".

De Goutin tells us that both Trouve, and Michel LeNeuf, were now very unpopular in the colony. He states that Father Trouve had been forced to leave Beaubassin. He further tells us that the Morin family was related to one-third of the habitants of Acadia, and so feelings of anger among the habitants ran deep. When Michel LeNeuf died at sea in 1705, he went unmourned in Acadia. There is evidence that some of the settlers he brought from Trois-Riviers in 1676 left Beaubassin for Quebec soon after 1705. Could they have been compelled to leave by vengeful Acadians?

As for the remaining 18 conspirators; they were sent, impoverished, to Quebec. Pierre Morin died in 1690, about two years after arriving in Quebec. In Quebec the exiles acquired powerful friends for Pierre Morin, Jr. had married Francoise Chiasson, who was also exiled. Francoise Chiasson had a brother, Jean Chiasson, who had settled at Quebec, and who married Marie-Anne Lemoine in 1697. Marie-Anne Lemoine was the cousin of Charles and Jacques Lemoine, and Anne Lemoine, who had married Michel Messier, Sieur de St-Michel. The Lemoines were the most powerful family in Quebec. This family connection may explain a large grant of land, on the Gaspe River, given to Marie Martin in 1697.

Marie Martin disposed of this land grant in September, 1702: "25 September, 1702: Marie Martin, widow of Pierre Martin, in relinquishing a fief "of half league, on either side of the Gaspe River," that had been granted her, about 1697, by Francois de Gallifet, the King's representative at Montreal, declared that her husband had died twelve years previously."

In 1699 Marie Martin was recorded as living in the house of her son Pierre at Mont-Louis, Quebec. She died at Quebec on 16 September, 1714 and was buried the next day. Pierre and Marie-Madeleine Martin had 12 children altogether. They are the parents of 5 sons and 3 daughters who have descendants.

There is no record of what happened to the baby.

Witchcraft - The first Witch trial of the Maritimes 1684

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Charles Godin dit Bellefontaine, dit Boisjoli who married Marie Melanson was the grandson of Pierre Godin dit Chatillon. Pierre Godin was born in 1630 in Châtillon-sur-Seine, Cote-d'Or, France.

Pierre Godin dit Châtillon, son of Claude Godin & Marie Bardin, enlisted to go to Canada on 23 May 1653 in the study of notary LaFousse at La Flèche, Anjou, for the salary of 100 livres per year. He was a master carpenter, and had worked as a journeyman at Châtillon-sur-Seine (arrondissement of Montbard), Burgandy.

On 20 Jun 1653 he acknowledged receiving 127 livres advance wages (notary BELLIOTTE). He arrived in Canada as a member of the "Grande Recrue" on 22 Sep 1653 aboard the "Saint-Nicolas" and was given a land grant by Governor MAISONNEUVE on 2 Feb 1654.

On 27 Sep 1654 a marriage contract was drawn up by notary Lambert Closse, and signed by him, between Pierre and Jeanne Rousseliere, daughter of Louis Rousseliere & Isabelle Paris. She was one of the "Filles à Marier." They were married by Father Pierre Pijart, SJ on 14 Oct 1654 at Montréal.
Pierre became a soldier with the 19th squadron of Montréal's "Sainte-Famille" militia in 1663, by which time he and Jeanne had four children. Five more would follow, until 1672.

In that year Pierre Godin and his oldest son Laurent (then age 17) were tried for beating neighbor Pierre Boutonne dit La Ramée, after he had allegedly slapped daughter Catherine (then around 13), claiming she had stolen bread from him. On 30 Aug 1672 Boutonne agreed to pay the costs of pursuing the trial.

In 1675 Pierre was entrusted with the project of building a chapel at Lachine, at which time the family was living near the rapids. Between 7 Jun 1676 and 11 Jun 1677, they immigrated to Port-Royal, Acadia , where Pierre's experience as a carpenter was needed.

On 28 Jun 1685 Pierre sued Jean Campagnard for witchcraft, "claiming that Campagnard cast a spell on him to make Pierre forget threats that he made. The case was not a success for Pierre." He died at Rivière-St-Jean sometime before the 1686 census, which found his wife and three children at Port-Royal, Acadia.

http://www.museeacadien.ca/english/archives/articles/74.htm

Our English Ancestors

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Pierre Laverdure and his wife Priscilla landed in 1657 after sailing from England with their sons onboard the ship Satisfaction. It is also generally accepted that the family disembarked at St. John's fort at the mouth of the St. John River. The family had sailed to Acadia with the newly appointed English Governor of Acadia, Sir Thomas Temple and a group of other settlers. Pierre and Priscilla, however, were to reside in Acadia for only 10 years.

A Boston court document from 1677 (Priscilla's petition of May 3, 1677) recorded Priscilla's late husband, "Peter Leverdure", as being a Frenchman and a Protestant and "Priscilla Leverdure" as being an Englishwoman. The petition goes on to state that Priscilla's husband had left "[St.] John's fort to escape the wrath of his countrymen Papists". This latter statement clearly suggests that Pierre was a French Huguenot who might have left France as the Catholic government's tolerance for the Protestant Huguenots began to rapidly deteriorate during the 1620's. Either due to the problems unwinding in France or for some other reason, Pierre ended up in England were he and his Priscilla were married about 1630. Ten years before Priscilla's petition the 1667 Treaty of Breda between the English and the French had ceded Acadia back to France. Pierre and Priscilla, both Protestants, were probably unable to fathom the idea of living under a French Catholic government and thus departed for Protestant ruled Boston, Massachusetts, sometime between 1667 and 1770 (Sir Thomas Temple had managed to delay the actual handing over of Acadia to French until 1670).

Two of Pierre's sons went by the Melanson surname, societal logic would dictate that this was their father's surname. However, no record has been found to put the Melanson surname with Pierre senior so perhaps Melanson was Priscilla's surname. Many have suggested that it was Mallinson (or a variation thereof) but there are no records to indicate this in any official sense that would serve to accurately enhance any historical or genealogical research. In an effort to present the most factual data available, most professional researchers and genealogists omit any suggestion of a maiden name for Priscilla from their work. Many spelling variations resembling the Melanson name did exist in England during the 1500's and 1600's but it seems unlikely that Pierre and Charles, both apparently well educated and obviously literate, would go on to consistently misspell their surname when they settled in the New World. This and other details surrounding the origin of the name has gone on to create many theories and possibilities, but it is not known for certain why or from where Pierre and Charles started to use the Melanson surname.

Charles dit La Ramée (Melanson) married Marie Dugas, daughter of Abraham Dugas & Marguerite-Louise Doucet. Charles dit La Ramée and his wife Marie would establish their family near the old Port Royal habitation in the Port Royal basin at what is today known as the Melanson Settlement (sometimes referred to as the "Melanson Village" in old records and maps). The settlement grew quite large over the years with a total of nine households being located on the land during its peak times.

Charles and his wife Marie seem to have done reasonably well as the census' show their cleared land expanding and their livestock increasing. They also had a large section of dyked marshland along the Rivière Daupin (the Annapolis River) adjacent to their property. It was from this dyke that archaeologists recently retrieved two intact aboiteax, one of which is the largest and oldest aboiteau found to date. Other archaeological digs at the Melanson Settlement discovered the foundations of many of the homes and buildings that once stood on the site, including the structure that housed Charles Melanson (son of Charles dit La Ramée) and his wife Anne Bourg.

Marie Melanson daughter of Charles Melanson and Anne Bourg married Charles Godin Boisjoli/Bellefontaine. Their daughter Anne married Pierre Sirois. Marie-Josephe Siros married Vincent Rioux. Basillisse Rioux married Hillaire Thibault. Basillisse and Hillaire were parents of Fabien our great great Grandfather.

For more reading http://www.gregors-gathering.ca/Acadia/Melanson/melansons-intro-gen1.htm

Train Station - Dedham MA circa 1900

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Boston and Providence Railroad Station High Street Dedham, MA circa 1900

Old Photographs

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Delia Grace Thibault on left

John Coolidge and Arlene Thibault

from front steps
Lyda Thibault and husband Joe Conroy
Arlene Thibault, Delia Grace Thibault and husband William Sullivan

Where we come from

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Our Thibault line began about 1666 in Beaupre across the river from Cap-Saint-Ignance with Francois Louis Thibault. In 1670 he married at Sainte Anne de Beaupré Elizabeth-Agnes Lefebvre and moved across the river to Cap-Saint-Ignance where he had 13 children. Jean-Francois was born and married in Cap-Saint-Ignance but sometime during his life he move slightly up river to L'Islet sur-Mer. It wasn't until Hilaire that the Thibault's found themselves in Trois Pistoles where he met and married Basillisse Rioux. Fabien was born in St. Simon, Rimouski and died in Baie-des-Sables. Magloire left Baie-des-Sables for Fall River sometime around 1890.

Sainte Anne de Beaupré

Devotion to Saint Anne, in Canada, goes back to the beginning of New France, and was brought thither by the first settlers and early missionaries. The hardy pioneers soon began to till the fertile soil of the Beaupré hillside; in the region which now forms the parish of Sainte Anne de Beaupré the first houses date from the year 1650. Nor was it long before the settlers built themselves a chapel where they might meet for Divine worship. One of their number, the Sieur Etienne Lessard, offered to give the land required at the spot which the church authorities should find suitable. On 13 March, 1658, therefore, the missionary, Father Vignal, came to choose the site and to bless the foundation of the proposed chapel which, by general consent, was to be dedicated to St. Anne. The very day the Saint showed how favourably she viewed the undertaking by healing Louis Guimont, an inhabitant of Beaupré, who suffered terribly from rheumatism of the loins. Full of confidence in St. Anne, he came forward and placed three stones in the foundations of the new building, whereupon he found himself suddenly and completely cured of his ailment.

Today Sainte Anne de Beaupre is a Catholic Shrine. More than 1.5 million people make the pilgrimage each year to a complex that includes a major basilica and a museum.

Cape St. Ignatius

Founded in 1672, Cape St. Ignatius is characterized by its rich heritage and fertility of its soil. A tasty way to your fingertips you can discover the delights of the local terroir. Landscaped pedestrian pathways informative sites Small-Cap and the old government dock you provide access to the river that will charm you. Heritage Trail invite you back in time to discover places and historic buildings. Fitted with a three-manual Casavant organ and many architectural treasures, the church also offers a permanent exhibition of religious art. In spring, the rest area invites bird watchers to observe the snow geese and other species. Suggesting a variety of activities, Sugarbush public open their doors for you to discover the secrets of making maple syrup. In the fall, the orchards of West Bellevue area are enchanting sites for pick. Paradise for waterfowl and big game, Cap St. Ignace is, its flats to its large forest areas, a prime destination for hunters.

L'Islet sur Mer

In 1633, Father Lejeune, missionary, landed where a rock formed by the river, "a small Islette (island), the Indians called" Atisaouacanichetagoukhi. History is kept, we can guess why the name ... Country French sailors who were also his naval school, L'Islet-sur-Mer offers a beautiful estate homes with traditional architecture whose lands are caressed by the tides. Among them, two impressive buildings: the church ranked Notre-Dame-du-Bon-Secours and the Maritime Museum of Quebec. In the eastern part of the village, Quay Street leads to a small natural cove that serves as shelter for small boats. All the gentle landscape of the estuary spreads out before our eyes. On the beach during their migration in spring and autumn thousands of snow geese come to offer a grandiose spectacle.

The municipality of Trois-Pistoles (3,739 inhabitants in 2002; 7.74 sq. km) is located on river Saint-Laurent, in the region known as the Basque district (also, administratively, MRC Les Basques). Basque whalers settled the area in the XVIth-XVIIth centuries; they used to cut up whales on a small island located 5 km off Trois-Pistoles, subsequently named Îles aux Basques. Today an ornithological reserve, the island has kept remains of Basque ovens.The Basque heritage is recalled by the "Basque Adventure Park", including the only pelota front wall in Canada.

Trois-Pistoles

In 1621, a Basque ship moored off Trois-Pistoles and sailor landed to resupply in freshwater. An officer lost his tumbler in the river and said: "Three pistols lost." The story is the origin of the name of the river, subsequently given to the village founded in 1693 and incorporated as a municipality on 9 March 1916. "Pistole" was the generic name given to golden coins whose value caried form country to country. The Spanish pistoles (10 pounds) were massively introduced in France after the marriage of Louis XIV with the Spanish Infant Maria- Theresia in 1659.

Rimouski

The city was founded by Sir René Lepage de Ste-Claire in 1696. Originally from Ouanne in the Burgundy region, he exchanged property he owned on the Île d'Orléans with Augustin Rouer de la Cardonnière for the Seigneurie of Rimouski, which extended along the St. Lawrence River from the Hâtée River at Le Bic to the Métis River. De la Cardonnière had been the owner of Rimouski since 1688, but had never lived there. René Lepage moved his family to Rimouski, where it held the seigneurie until 1780 when it was gradually sold to the Quebec City businessman Joseph Drapeau.

Baie-des-Sables

Established as a parish in 1869, Baie-des-Sables is renowened for its architectural heritage: the lovely homes, the wharf and the old mill (1838), the rectory (1864) and the impressive steeple of its church, which during the summer season can be visited by the public and offers a local handicraft exhibit.

Rebellions of 1837-1838

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The Rebellions of 1837 were a pair of Canadian armed uprisings that occurred in 1837 and 1838 in response to frustrations in political reform. While both were inflamed by economics there were major differences as seen in this article
http://www.politonomist.com/the-1837-1838-rebellions-a-comparison-002463/

A list of those put in prison for these uprisings can be found here http://patriotedurocher.blogspot.com/2011/05/les-patriotes-prisonniers-de-1837-1840.html. It includes many familiar names including Thibault and Gendron. Were any of these individuals related to us? Perhaps, probably even highly likely at least distantly.

The repercussions of the rebellion in Upper Canada were varied, depending on who was caught and when. Samuel Lount and Peter Matthews were both hanged after they were caught trying to escape the country, with a total of 20 people being hanged in connection with the rebellion. There was a price put on Mackenzie’s head of 1,000 pounds, although it was never claimed. In total 885 people were arrested or sought on charges connected to the rebellion, and those found were housed in horrible conditions pending trials. They were jammed together, given little food and some took sick, only for over 600 of them to be acquitted and more than 150 of them to be pardoned. 92 people were sent to penal colonies in Australia. Groups of government supporters, whether official or not, broke into houses, harassing people and stealing property in retaliation for the rebellion. Many people, fearing these reprisals, emigrated to the United States. As many as 25,000 people left, which was a massive drain on the small number of people present in the colony. Despite the small size of the rebellion in Upper Canada the repression of it was very severe, and not at all proportionate to the disturbance it caused.

In the wake of the rebellions in Lower Canada the reprisals were very similar to those in Upper Canada. 500 people were imprisoned following the activities in 1837 and 800 more were captured after the second rebellion in 1838. 66 rebels were exiled to Bermuda and Australia, with 12 being hanged in Montreal. As well, approximately 500 people sought refuge in the United States to evade arrest. Families were obligated to provide accommodation to soldiers free of charge, even as the troops looted and burned the houses of their neighbors who had led or fought in the rebellions. The Constitution Act, 1791 was suspended which resulted in the dismissal of the Assembly, and the army commander who had replaced Governor Gosford after he left the colony ruled by way of an enlarged Legislative Council and decrees. This was how the colony was left until Lord Durham arrived from Britain as both the Governor General of British North America and the President of the Commission of Inquiry on the situation in the North American colonies. Although the rebellions in Lower Canada were far more severe than that in Upper Canada, they were reacted to in a similar fashion and at a similar level, which makes the reaction in Upper Canada seem even more disproportionate.

Books

Sophie's Rebellion - Beverly Boissery Age 9+
Sohpie's Exile - Beverly Boissery Age: 9+

A Deep Sense of Wrong: The Treason, Trials and Transportation to New South Wales of Lower Canadian Rebels After the 1838 Rebellion - Bevery Boisserry

Fall River before Magloire and Delia arrived

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...in 1884, a Fall River newspaper reported that French Canadian Roman Catholic parishioners had locked their newly-appointed priest out of their church. When the priest finally gained entry to the building, he was confined to the vestry and then threatened with further violence. The priest's "offense"? He was Irish, and the French Canadians would, as one of them proclaimed, "stand on the brink of hell" before they would submit to an Irishman. In this textile-manufacturing city, hard feelings between the more established Irish immigrants and the French Canadian newcomers ran deep, in spite of their shared religion. The quarrel was about ethnicity, class, and politics. In response to their parishioners' rejection of the Irish priest, the bishop closed the French Canadian parish.

Most of the French Canadians who arrived in Massachusetts in the decades after the Civil War came, as the Irish had before them, to escape crushing poverty at home. Quebec had suffered a deep and prolonged agrarian depression in the mid-1800s. By 1880, one-third to one-quarter of all the arable land in Quebec had been abandoned as families found they could not survive on their farms. 25,000 French Canadians sought a new life across the border in New England's booming mill towns.

French Canadians poured into Lowell, Lawrence, Leominster, Gardner, Springfield, North Adams, New Bedford, and Fall River. Those who came to Fall River, which became a center of textile manufacturing with the development of steam power after the Civil War, joined a workforce that was made up predominantly of immigrants from England and Ireland. Many of the English were skilled workers who laid claim to the higher-paying jobs. They were also accustomed to urban life, had a tradition of participating in an organized labor movement, and backed pro-labor Democrats in politics. The Irish, some of whom had acquired textile machinery skills in Lancashire, England, before emigrating, quickly learned to adopt the practices of English militant laborers; they also began to use the city's frequent labor upheavals to build their base in the city's Democratic party. It was all utterly alien to the French Canadians.

The Quebequois who came to Fall River were rural people. They had no experience with factory work, and their poverty gave them little choice but to accept lower wages than those paid to other groups. This earned them the enmity of both the English Protestants and the Irish Catholics. The Canadians were also hostile to labor unions and tended to support the Republican Party. Isolated by language, the Canadians clustered in their own squalid neighborhoods, segregated from the English and Irish. Religion was a refuge; French-speaking priests provided ministry as well as community leadership and social services.

Tensions mounted as the Irish began to play a greater role in Fall River's labor movement and political establishment. Yankees, especially the Republican men who owned and ran the mills and city businesses, had traditionally dominated politics in the city. By 1879, however, one of the candidates for mayor was not only a Democrat but an Irishman. Within five years, Fall River had its first Irish mayor. Despite sharing a religion with the Irish, the French Canadians regarded the Irish as antagonists and did not support the Irish candidate.

Labor protests added to the tension between the French Canadians and Irish Catholics. Organized labor had a long history among British factory workers. When Fall River mill owners recruited skilled English textile workers after the Civil War, they unintentionally imported labor radicalism as well. Throughout the 1870s, immigrant English and Irish textile workers organized a series of labor actions and strikes. The French Canadians did not support the strikes, and in their desperate poverty they frequently took jobs as scabs or "knobsticks," as they were called. The Irish hated the French Canadians for what they saw as betrayal, and violence against "knobsticks" turned deadly.

In August 1884, the French Canadian priest assigned to Notre Dame, the church that served the French Canadians in the Flint Village area of Fall River, died suddenly. Three months later, the Bishop named a new pastor: Father Samuel P. McGee, an Irishman. The French Canadians were outraged. When the new priest arrived to say Mass in mid-December, he found the doors and windows nailed shut; when he managed to get into the building, several of the parishioners held him captive and threatened to kidnap him should he attempt to return to the church. Father McGee fled the pastoral residence and went into hiding. The Canadians collected money to send a delegation to Rome to plead for the appointment of a French-speaking priest.

Tensions grew worse in the following weeks. Fights broke out between those who were willing to accept the new priest and those who insisted on a French pastor. Angry crowds gathered outside the church and disrupted services. Police were dispatched to the church to prevent "sacrilege." By January, the newspapers were reporting near-riots. In one instance, a new choir arrived at the church to find the old choir, which had refused to sing for an Irish priest, threatening violence if the singers took their seats. Angry parishioners followed Father McGee out of the church, abusing and threatening him, and "calling him a d—d Irishman."

On February 13, 1885, the Bishop closed the church and withdrew the priest, explaining that he had "been compelled to this action by the insubordination of some of the flock." The church reopened the next year, under another Irish pastor, and conflict began again. Ethnic tensions between Irish and French Canadians in Fall River did not ease until the end of the century when the arrival of Portuguese, Greeks, Poles, Lithuanians, and Italian immigrants changed the ethnic, political, and social mix of Fall River and other Massachusetts cities.

Dedham Cemetery

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Why some relatives are listed in both the 1900 US Census and the 1901 Canadian Census

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Most of our Canadian ancestors were farmers. They lived primarily in Canada but would come down to the United States in the winter months to earn money, usually working in the mills. Fall River was one place many Canadians came to. Our direct ancestors, however, immigrated to the US to work on the railroad while their siblings and cousins continued to reside primarily in Canada farming but also working in the Mills of Fall River and Rhode Island during the winters.

"Most of the French Canadians who arrived in Massachusetts in the decades after the Civil War came, as the Irish had before them, to escape crushing poverty at home. Quebec had suffered a deep and prolonged agrarian depression in the mid-1800s. By 1880, one-third to one-quarter of all the arable land in Quebec had been abandoned as families found they could not survive on their farms. 25,000 French Canadians sought a new life across the border in New England's booming mill towns.

French Canadians poured into Lowell, Lawrence, Leominster, Gardner, Springfield, North Adams, New Bedford, and Fall River. Those who came to Fall River, which became a center of textile manufacturing with the development of steam power after the Civil War, joined a workforce that was made up predominantly of immigrants from England and Ireland. Many of the English were skilled workers who laid claim to the higher-paying jobs. They were also accustomed to urban life, had a tradition of participating in an organized labor movement, and backed pro-labor Democrats in politics. The Irish, some of whom had acquired textile machinery skills in Lancashire, England, before emigrating, quickly learned to adopt the practices of English militant laborers; they also began to use the city's frequent labor upheavals to build their base in the city's Democratic party. It was all utterly alien to the French Canadians.

The Quebequois who came to Fall River were rural people. They had no experience with factory work, and their poverty gave them little choice but to accept lower wages than those paid to other groups. This earned them the enmity of both the English Protestants and the Irish Catholics. The Canadians were also hostile to labor unions and tended to support the Republican Party. Isolated by language, the Canadians clustered in their own squalid neighborhoods, segregated from the English and Irish. Religion was a refuge; French-speaking priests provided ministry as well as community leadership and social services.

Tensions mounted as the Irish began to play a greater role in Fall River's labor movement and political establishment. Yankees, especially the Republican men who owned and ran the mills and city businesses, had traditionally dominated politics in the city. By 1879, however, one of the candidates for mayor was not only a Democrat but an Irishman. Within five years, Fall River had its first Irish mayor. Despite sharing a religion with the Irish, the French Canadians regarded the Irish as antagonists and did not support the Irish candidate.

Labor protests added to the tension between the French Canadians and Irish Catholics. Organized labor had a long history among British factory workers. When Fall River mill owners recruited skilled English textile workers after the Civil War, they unintentionally imported labor radicalism as well. Throughout the 1870s, immigrant English and Irish textile workers organized a series of labor actions and strikes. The French Canadians did not support the strikes, and in their desperate poverty they frequently took jobs as scabs or "knobsticks," as they were called. The Irish hated the French Canadians for what they saw as betrayal, and violence against "knobsticks" turned deadly." http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=360

Interesting, in light of the fact that our Grandfather married an Irish woman.

Our Great Grandfather Magloire Thibault

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I watched the recent episode of "Who Do You Think You Are" with Gwyneth Paltrow. In it she discovers the hard life of her great grandmother that led to her not being a very good mother to her grandfather and his siblings. Her grandmother experienced the death of both her mother and grandfather when she was in college and had to drop out. Later her oldest daughter was killed by a horse carriage at 3 years old. It got me to thinking about all the deaths that Magloire experienced.

At eight years old his mother Emilie died. When he was 16 his stepmother Celine (Miville-Deschenes) died and his father married for the third time. His father died when Magloire was 32, married, and father of five children including a son, Magloire, who died in infancy. In 1903 he lost another son, John, in infancy. In 1919 Magloire lost both his wife Delia and his daughter Laura. In 1947 and in 1948 he lost his daughter Delia Grace and our grandfather his son Joseph John both to heart disease. In 1955 his first grand child, Joseph (BooBoo) Darling died. In 1957 his daughters Lyda and Arlene died. His son-in-law, Arlene's husband, died of a heart attack shortly before Arlene's death.

Magloire died in 1958 a few months after Arlene passed. Magloire had a hard life, yet the one picture we know of him from around 1957 show him to be a happy man. I would have loved to have known him.

What little we do know of him involves great tragedy and heart ache but he was also a family man. Both his brother and brother in law lived with him and his family in Dedham. His first grandchild came to live with him after his daughter Delia Grace remarried. Later, probably after retirement from the railroad, he went to live with Arlene and her husband John Coolidge.

Funny things discovered on the way to your relatives

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Our Great Aunt Arlene married a man in Masschusetts named John Coolidge. No, he was not that Coolidge, but some thought he was. Apparently Arlene and John decided to elope. They went to Porchester, NY and when they gave John's name eyebrows raised and telegraphs were a flutter. So there went their 15 minutes of fame.

September 26,1927

The Photographer

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Joseph Thibault son of Charles and Virginie (Boucher) Thibault was born April 23, 1871. He was the brother of Charles Onesime Thibault founder owner editor and publisher of "L'Independent," a weekly news-paper printed in the French language. Joseph married Adele Berube on October 28, 1889. They had 2 children Adele and Albert. Albert died in 1900 at the age of 4. Adele we can find no record and she wasn't listed in the 1900 census with Albert so it is assumed she died prior to 1900.

Joseph and Adele lived in Fall River until at least 1920 when they were listed on the Census as living at 1510 Highland Street. They owned the house at this time. Joseph ran his photography business originally from Pleasant Street, Fall River and later from 154 South Main Street until his death in 1926. In between he had what appeared to be temporary South Main Street addresses.

Joseph and Charles Onesime were 4th Cousins once removed from Magloire. We don't have a photo of our Photographer but we do find one of his brother Onesime. It was probably taken by Joseph.

Old Photographs

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Often one comes upon old photographs in boxes or from relatives where the identity of the party in the picture is not known. Guesses can be made about who is in the picture but verification is difficult. I came across one such picture from a cousin who's family always thought that this was a wedding photograph of Maglore Thibault and Delia Beaulieu. It may be, but it also maybe a photograph of Victoria Thibault (Magloire's first cousin) and her husband Joseph Caron. I'm posting this in hopes that perhaps someone will come across it and know for sure or know at least that it is NOT Victoria and Joseph Caron.

Mystery solved. This is the wedding photo of Magloire and Delia Beaulieu. It was, as far as I know, taken by a photographer Joseph Thibault. Joseph was married to a Mary Adele Berube. Joseph and Mary had one son Albert who died at 4 in 1890. They didn't have any more children but were still in Fall River as of 1920.

Might have spoke too soon. Still unsure on the true identity of this photo. Timing of photograph maybe everything. Maybe if I can date the dress ;-)

Miville dit Le Suisse

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Jacques Miville still lived with his parents in 1667 at the age of 27 and was believed to be a "coureur des bois" making a living off the fur trade. For example, in January 1684, he buys goods from Jean Maheux, a merchant in Quebec City, and promises to pay him in the springtime"when he gets back from his trip." In October 1669, he married Catherine de Baillon, daughter of the late Alphonse de Baillon and Lady Louise de Marle, who had been provided with a large dowry. The wedding was attended by numerous personalities including Mssrs Daniel de Rémy Chevalier Seigneur de Courcelles and Louis Rouer Sieur de Villeray. To our knowledge, the marriage contract is the first document in which Jacques Miville, the groom, is identified as "Sieur desChesnes". We can not explain why Jacques has this title, which would become the Deschênes surname of many of his descendants.

A short while after the signing of the wedding contract, Jacques hired two men to cut down trees on his concession of land located in grande Anse au Cap Martin. In the spring of 1670, he performs "navigation and every day work." During the 1670's he carries out fur trade: in 1677, he is known to promise payments in the form of beaver skins. However, he also buys property, and this gives the impression that he wants to work the land. In June 1674, he buys property from Sieur de La Bouteillerie, Lord of Rivière-Ouelle, a domain measuring 12 acres in width to the Saint-Jean River, a short distance west of Rivière-Ouelle, and what is today in Pocatiere. This concession of land was situated in an area fought over by the Lord of La Pocatiere and the Lord of Rivière-Ouelle. In the end Jacques is guaranteed ownership by the lady of La Pocatiere. He settles on this land before 1675, this is evident since his daughter Marie is born in Rivière Saint-Jean, not in Saint-Jean-Port-Joli, as mentioned in Jette's dictionary. In 1676, he sells this property and buys another one in Riviere-Ouelle, where he lives for seven more years.

In 1684, he comes back to Rivière Saint-Jean to work as a farmer on his former property now owned by Charles Aubert de la Chesnaye, one of the richest notables in Nouvelle-France.

Jacques Miville died in Rivière-Ouelle Saint-Jean on January 27th, 1688: he was only 49. His wife died the very same day. He was buried the next day and Catherine, his wife, the following day. These simultaneous deaths are still unexplained. He was the father of six children aged from 6 to 17. Francois, his brother comes and settles in Riviere Saint-Jean, and becomes the guardian of his, Jacques children. Francois has ten children of his own, ages 2 to 20, all of them born in Lauzon between 1663 and 1686. He pays for the farm lease from 1689 to 1693 at which time he gets married to Jeanne Sauvenier, his second wife and her third husband, and moves to Rivière-Ouelle where he dies in 1711 at the age of 77. Jeanne Sauvenier(Savonnet) brought to the marriage 10 children between the ages of 4 and 21. Francois and Jeanne have one more child. This was one huge family.

Metis found

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Basile H. Beaulieu (son of Nicolas Basile Hudon Beaulieu and Josette Miville) came from Montreal, P. Q. Canada with his brother Paul to Lac-du-Flambeau, Wisconsin about 1804. Voyageur with the North West Fur Company, 1804-1805, Flambeau, Minnesota. Basile and his brother Paul managed the Fur Trading Post at Lac-du-Flambeau, WI. In 1818 Basile is listed among the "Roster of Employees" of the American Fur Company.

Basile (Bazile) was listed by the North West Fur Company in 1805 in the Lac du Flambeau department with one year to serve on his contract and a credit of 16 livre on his account. He was hired by the Michilimackinac Company on 9 July 1810 to winter at Lac du Flambeau for 700 livre.(p. 33)19 The town of Beaulieu, Mahnomen County, Minnesota was named after the descendants of Basile and his Ojiway wife.

Basile H. Beaulieu married in 1810 in Wisconsin an Indian Maiden named O-Ge-mau-gee-shi-go-qua, which means Queen of the Skies, but was called Marguerite Beaulieu. (She was the daughter of the Indian Chief, White Raven.) It is believed that Basile H. Beaulieu died in 1838 and is buried in the Beaulieu burial grounds at La Pointe, Madeleine Island, Wisconsin.

Paul married an Indian Maiden named Wau-Ne-Aush-E-Quay.

Basile and Paul are not direct decendants of ours but they share common ancestors Nicholas Hudon Beaulieu and Marie Madeleine Bouchard. So there is the Indian dad claimed was in our family.

Delia Beaulieu Thibault's Siblings

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Delia Beaulieu (1872-1919), daughter of Amable and Georgina (Beaupre) Beaulieu had nine siblings, four brothers and five sisters. We know a little more about four of them.

Pierre Beaulieu (1871-?). Pierre married late in life (31) to a much older woman. Her name was Marie Rosa Scarbeau and she was 48. There were, obviously, no children to this marriage.

Madeleine Beaulieu

Omer Beaulieu (1878-?). According to the 1900 Census Omer lived with his sister Delia and her family in Dedham, MA. He was listed as being 20, having immigrated in 1898. This could have been a language problem and 20 was the age he was when he came to the US. Omer married Sedulie Lavoie in 1905 in Quebec. They had two children we know about. One was Madeleine Beaulieu. She died at age 91 in 2008. Madeleine married Cyrice Berube. They had one daughter we could find, Clairmance Berube. Clairmance married Daniel d'Astous and they had 3 children. Dany, Danick, and Marie-Helene. Marie-Helene d'Astous married James Pelletier and had one son Jacob Pelletier. Danick married Genieve Blanchette,

Omer had one other child we know about, Clovis-Alphone Beaulieu. Clovis-Alphone was born in 1919 and died in 1980. Clovis married Gisele d'Astous (relation to Clairmance's husband unknown). They had eight children;Georgette (married Normad Berger), Ferndinand (married Sylvie Théberge), Melita, Anonomye (Oct. 10, 1950-Oct. 12, 1950), Gaston (married Columbe Gagnon), Anonomye (April 27, 1953-April 28, 1950) Roger and Isabelle. It is Melita Beaulieu we know more about. Melita married Armond d'Astous (relationship unknown) and had two children Sarah d'Astous and Sabastien d'Astous.

Elise Beaulieu (1890-1977) Elise married a Leon Martin and had one child we know about. Benoit Martin. Benoit married Orise Rioux and had five children. Carol Martin married Lyne Palmondon but we find no record of children. Christine Martin married Dany Belzile and have three sons; Benoit-Alexa Belzile, Jean-Francois Belzile, and Pierre-Luc Belzile. Therese Martin married Daniel Thibault (relationship not known). Daniel was a widower and had two daughters Amelie and Noemie. Therese and Daniel had another daughter Emma Thibault. Sylvain Martin married Johanne Garard and had two children Anne-Sophie Martin and Louis-David Martin. Bernard Martin was born October 5, 1955 and died January 25, 1956.

Marie Beaulieu (1883-?) - Marie married Joseph Gagnon in Nov. 18, 1901 in Rimouski. They had 5 children Luce Gagnon married Hormidas Proulx, Rose de-Lima Gagnon married Octave Proulx, Joseph married Gabrielle Lavoie, Georgiane Gagnon married Isadore Thibault (yes he is a distant cousin of Magloire through Jean-Francois Thibault and Angelique Proulx), and an unknown son who married Madeleine Bernier.

Generations:

Grandparents Generation
Parents Generation
Kids Generation
Grandkids Generation

Children of Amable Beaulieu and Georgina Beaupre

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Pierre Armand Beaulieu 1871 –
Delia Victoria Beaulieu 1872 – 1919
Rose De Lima Beaulieu 1876 –
Omer Beaulieu 1878 –
Marie Beaulieu 1883
Lydia Beaulieu 1884 –
Louis Amable Beaulieu 1885 – 1886
Joseph Amable Beaulieu 1887 – 1887
Delvina Alphonsine Beaulieu 1888 –
Elise Beaulieu 1890 – 1977
Claudia Beaulieu 1893 –

Eighth Generation Aunt

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Fabien Thibault's oldest sister was Desanges Thibault. Desanges was born 21 Mar 1830 in Trois-Pistoles. She died on 26 Feb 1897 in Baie-des-Sables.

Desanges married Louis Dion son of Jean-Baptiste Dion and Louise Lucie Harvey on 4 May 1857 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. They had the following children:

Desanges Dion was born in Mar 1858 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She died on 2 Jun 1858 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was buried 1 on 4 Jun 1858 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Charles Dion. Charles married 1 Ursule Dutremble-Desrosiers daughter of Théotime Dutremble-Desrosiers and Rosalie Ruest on 12 Oct 1880 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane.
Claire Dion. Claire married 1 Zéphirin Lévesque son of Augustin Lévesque and Elmire Rioux on 10 Apr 1883 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane.
Elmire Dion was born in Feb 1861 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She died on 18 Mar 1861 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was buried 1 on 20 Mar 1861 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Clarina Dion was born in Apr 1862 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She died on 14 Sep 1862 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was buried 1 on 16 Sep 1862 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Magloire Dion. Magloire married Célina Mignault daughter of François-Xavier Mignault and Emlie Charette on 13 Sep 1887 in St-Octave, Mont-Joli.
Louis Dion was born in Apr 1864 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He died on 9 May 1864 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was buried 1 on 11 May 1864 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Apolline Dion. Apolline married 1 Joseph Migneault son of Joseph Mignault and Delvina Fournier on 3 May 1886 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane.
Joseph Dion. Joseph married 1 Alzire Paquet daughter of Antoine Paquet and Constance Aubé on 16 Nov 1891 in Ste-Thérèse-d'Avilla, Ste-Thérèse.

Eighth Generation Uncles

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Fabien Thibault had 14 brothers and sisters one of which was his oldest brother Hilarion. Hilarion was born on 4 Jan 1829 in Trois-Pistoles.

Hilarion married Florence Gagné daughter of Augustin Gagné and Elisa Dandurand on 4 Feb 1855 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. Florence was born in 1836. She died on 27 Aug 1864 in St-Fabien, Rmouski. She was buried 2 on 29 Aug 1864 in St-Fabien, Rmouski. They had six children

Augustin Thibault was born on 5 Feb 1857 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 7 Feb 1857 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Jean Thibault
Léa Thibault was born on 30 Apr 1859 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was christened 1 on 1 May 1859 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. Léa married 1 Pierre-Paul Dubé son of Romain Dubé and Dominique Chamberland on 30 Jun 1885 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Napoléon Thibault was born on 24 Jun 1860 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 25 Jun 1860 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He died on 11 Sep 1867 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was buried 2 on 13 Sep 1867 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Joseph Thibault was born on 14 Oct 1861 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 14 Oct 1861 in St-Fabien, Rimouski Joseph married Ernestine Coulombe daughter of Charles Coulombe and Clémentine Lebel on 20 Jul 1885 in St-Fabien, Rimouski
Azilda Desneiges Thibault born on 5 Aug 1863 in St-Fabien, Rimouski

Hilarion married his second wife Clémentine Dumont daughter of Moïse Dumont and Angèle Hamilton on 25 Sep 1865 in St-Simon, Rimouski. Clémentine was born in 1829. She died on 8 Nov 1884 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was buried on 11 Nov 1884 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. They had 8 children

Marie Thibault was born on 18 Aug 1866 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. She was christened 1 on 19 Aug 1866 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Félix Napoléon Thibault was born on 18 Jan 1868 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 19 Jan 1868 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Fabien Thibault was born on 5 Feb 1869 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 7 Feb 1869 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Virginie Rosalie Thibault
Démerise Thibault
Clara Thibault
François-Xavier Thibault
Marie-Anne Thibault

History of the Hudon-Beaulieu Name

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Ancient Brittany, originally known as Armorica, was inhabited by the Celtic Tribes of Veneti, Curiovolitae and the Asismii in the 3rd century BC. The name Hudon is believed to have originated in this area of France. In the 4th century of the Roman General Maximus induced 6,000 Britons under their leader Prince Conan, son of the King of Wales and Albany, to occupy Brittany. King Conan was the most ancient Christian King in Europe.

Constatine, King of Brittany was the grandfather of the celebrated King Arthur of England. Succeeding was Prince Urbien in the 5th century. In the 6th century the Dukes of Brittany also became the Counts of Cornwall in the southwest of England. Succeeding, Budic was the King of Brittany in 851. In the 9th century the Dukes of Anjou, neighbors to the south, intermarried with the Princess of Brittany. In the 10th century, the Dukes of Brittany also intermarried with the Dukes of Normandy. Judith of Brittany married Richard II, Duke of Normandy. The name Hudon was first found in Brittany at this time, where this distinguished family was seated during this early time.

Throughout the course of history most surnames have undergone changes for many reasons. A son may spell his name differently from that of his father. But most are simple spelling changes made by priests, scribes or recorders based on the phonetic version. Many names held prefixes or suffixes which became optional as they passed through the centuries, or were adopted by different branches to signify either a political or religious adherence. Hence, we have many variations of the name Hudon, some of which are Heude, Hude, Heudon, Heudelon, Hudelon, Heudelin, Hudelin, Heudelot, Hudelot, Heudel, Hudel, Heudet, Hudet, Heudot, Hudot, Heudaut, Hudaut, Heudault, Hudault, Heudier, Hudier, but nonetheless all are included in the basic origin of the surname Hudon.

The 10th century Brittany reflected a closer relationship to the newly formed Dukedom of Normandy on their eastern borders. The Duke of Brittany married Hawise, daughter of the Duke of Normandy in 1002 AD. Popular names among the Dukes of Brittany were Alain, Geoffrey and Etienne. A dispute which arose between the Kings of England and the Kings of France for absolute rule over the area known as Brittany, this emerged as a focal conflict during the next two or three centuries. The Duke of Normandy, now King of England, claimed Brittany and Normandy. However, in 1365 Brittany renewed relations with France and was annexed to the French Crown and was reverted to a duchy.

The name Hudon is found in Brittany, where the family was established from very early in a village, in the department of Loire-Inferieure, in the district of Ancenis, in the canton of Blanquefort. Through time the members of the family became very numerous and they began settling in other regions. The family was established in Monsoreau during the first part of the 16th century. Several members became renowned; Jean Heudon, born in Paris, was a famous playwright in 1598. Another notable amongst this distinguished family was Julien Hudault, a King’s advisor and assessor of the hotel de Ville in Saumur, in 1702.

In the early 16th century France became the model for all Europe. New World exploration became a challenge to all. Along the eastern seaboard of north America there were from North to South; New France, New England, New Holland and New Spain. Jacques Cartier made the first voyage to new France in 1534. The Jesuits and Champlain came to New France in 1608, however the first true immigrant to New France was Louis Hebert and family. Champlain brought them from France in 1617.

In 1643, 109 years after the first landings by Cartier, there were only about 300 people in New France which was now being called Quebec. In 1663, the King of France finally gave land incentives for 2000 migrants during the decade. The fur trade was developed and attracted migrants, both noble and commoner from France. 15,000 explorers left Montreal in the late 17th and early 18th century, leaving French names scattered across the continent.

Amongst the settlers in North America with this distinguished name Hudon were our 8th Great Grandfather Pierre Hudon, who married Marie Gobeil in Quebec City in 1676; Jean-Baptiste Hudon, who married Marie-Catherine Dube in Riviere-Ouelle in 1746; and Louis-Charles Hudon, who married Marie-Anne Lebel in Kamouraska in 1774. Meanwhile, many of this distinguished family name Hudon were prominent in social, cultural, religious and political affairs in France and Quebec (New France).

The dit Beaulieu Extension

In France and continued in the area called New France (Quebec) it was proper and customary to add extensions to a family surname. The extension “Beaulieu” was used in a province of Anjou, France before the French Revolution. The extension Beaulieu meant “Beautiful Place”. A Historical note here about Anjou, today this area is now Anjour.

Name extensions were used to denote political affiliations, a profession, a place, or a characteristic feature of a family. In our case it was used for a place which set us apart from another or other Hudon families in the province or area. The extension name was also used on all documents such as; births, marriages and death. Many times the children used that same dit-name, but they could change it if there were several people in that family with the same extension. Pierre Hudon was the first to use the “Beaulieu” extension in the New World in approximately 1670. Our line eventually dropped the Hudon in favor of Beaulieu.

http://thehudons.com/history_of_hudon_name.htm

Our line runs:

Delia Beaulieu Thibault ->> Amable Beaulieu ->> Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Joseph-Francois Hudon-Beaulieu ->> *Pascal Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Nicholas Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Pierre Hudon-Beaulieu m. Marie Gobeil ->> Jean Hudon m. Francois Durand

*note that Pascal Hudon-Beaulieu married a Marie-Anne-Francois Hudon-Beaulieu who appears to be his 2nd cousin. Pascal and Marie's fathers are first cousin's and their grandfathers are brothers. Marie was married before to Jean-Andre Plourde for about 5 years before he died in 1778. No record of any children from her first marriage.

*Marie-Anne-Francois Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Joseph Basile Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Jean-Bernard Hudon-Beaulieu ->> Pierre Hudon-Beaulieu m. Marie Gobeil - >> Jean Hudon m. Francois Durand

More on Catherine de Ballion Our Royal Connection

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Catherine de Baillon (our 9th Great Grandmother) is one of the noble women sent as Filles du Roi. She was born about 1645 in Montfort 1’Amaury (near Rambouiliet, diocese of Chartres), Île-de-France, the daughter of squire Alphonse de Bailion, Sieur de Valence et de la Mascotterie and Louise de Marie. Some believe that the family comes from Italy and is descended from Pierre de Bailion who was killed in 1356 at the Battle of Poitiers and buried in the Jacobin cemetery in this city. However, the proof is lacking, and Catherine’s first known ancestor is Mathurin Baillon, a bourgeois of Chartres, who died some time after 1490. After her father’s death, Catherine left for Canada in 1669 at about age 24, bringing with her goods worth an estimated 1,000 livres for her dowry.

On 12 November 1669, Catherine married Jacques Miville dit Deschênes in Québec City. Both spouses signed the marriage contract drawn up 19 October 1669 by notary Duquet. Jacques was born 02 May 1639 in Saint-Hilaire d’Hiers-Brouage (near Rochefort, diocese of Saintes), Saintonge, the son of Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse and Charlotte Maugis. Jacques’ father Pierre was from the canton of Fribourg in Switzerland. On 16 July 1665, Jacques Miville, his brother François (third husband of Fille du Roi Jeanne Savonnet), their father Pierre and four other “Swiss from the canton of Fribourg” were granted the Canton des Suisses Fribourgeois at La Pocatière.

Jacques was born 02 May 1639 in Saint-Hilaire d'Hiers-Brouage (near Rochefort, diocese of Saintes), Saintonge, the son of Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse and Charlotte Maugis. Jacques' father Pierre was from the canton of Fribourg in Switzerland. He arrived in New France in around 1649 with his parents and siblings.

Catherine and Jacques settled at Rivière Ouelle and had six children. Marie-Catherine was baptized 03 September 1670 at Québec City, followed by Charles (08 September 1671) and Jean (06 September 1672). Fille du Roi Madeleine De Roybon d’Allone served as Jean’s godmother. Daughter Marie was born at Saint-Jean-Port-Joli 30 March 1675, but was not baptized until 23 July of the same year at Québec City. She died before the 1681 census. Son Charles was the first of their children to be born at Rivière Ouelle, though he was baptized at Québec City 01 September 1677. He was followed by Claude-Marie (aka Marie-Claude), who was born at Rivière Ouelle, though baptized at l’Islet 20 November 1681.

On 25 October 1673, Catherine’s mother was settling the estate of her late husband (she had since married and been widowed by Marc d’Amanzay). Among other donations and distributions, Louise de Marle gave Catherine 600 livres for all the rights that she might claim in the inheritance, half to be paid at Louise’s death and the other half six months later. In the act of donation, it was noted that Catherine had already received “considerable sums,” most likely referring to her dowry.

Both Jacques Miville dit Deschênes and Catherine De Baillon died 27 January 1688. Jacques was buried the same day at Rivière Ouelle and Catherine followed her husband to the grave three days later. They may have both been victims of the smallpox epidemic that stuck Québec in 1687.

Both of our great grandparents Delia and Magloire were directly related to Catherine de Baillon and Jacques Miville Deschenes

The relationship:

Maglore Thibault -> Emilie Gendron -> Adelaide Morin -> Madeleine-Perpetue Ouelette -> Genevieve Labourlier-Laplante -> Marie-Josephte Miville-Deschenes -> Pierre-Francois Miville-Deschenes -> Jean Miville-Deschenes -> Jacques Miville-Deschenes & Catherine de Baillon

Delia Victoria Beaulieu(Thibault) -> Georgina Beaupre -> Pierre Martial Beaupre -> Pierre Beaupre -> Therese Berube -> Joseph Berube -> Marie Angelique Miville-Deschenes(Pierre-Francois' sister) -> Jean Miville-Deschenes -> Jacques Miville-Deschenes & Catherine de Baillon

One Year Ago

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January 4, 1930-December 10, 2009

Antoine Roy dit Desjardins - A story of a Soldier & a Filles du roi

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The story that follows is that of a soldier, Antoine Roy dit Desjardins (our 9th Great Grandfather) whose many wrongdoings and violent death transformed the adventure of one of les Filles du roi into a tragedy.

Antoine Roy was the son of master cooper, Olivier Roy and Catherine Baudard. His godparents were Antoine Baudard and Marie Collard. Around 1657, at the age of 22, the young Antoine married Catherine Byot. He was already working as a cooper like his father. Two children were born of this marriage and both were baptized at Saint Jean in Joigny, France:

1. Jacques Roy was presented at the baptismal font on 5 November 1658 by Jacques Perdigon and Marie Chacheré

2. Edme Roy was held over the same baptismal font on 13 March 1660 by Edme Nau and Marie Bourotte

At the time of the first baptism, Antoine's parents were both still living. However, his mother died a year later and was buried at Joigny on 10 December 1659. His father died a year and a half after the second baptism and was also buried at Joigny on 6 December 1661. The funerals of both parents were at Saint Jean, the church attended by both parents while they lived.

A few years after the death of his parents, Antoine left for New France. His wife and two children perhaps were also dead or perhaps he walked out on them*. During this period of time, the French were experiencing difficulties on the North American continent. Not only were they submitted to murderous raids from the Iroquois since 1658 but they were also the only Europeans left who challenged the English for the East Coast of North America. In 1655, the Dutch had seized New Sweden, founded in Delaware in 1635, but in 1664 they had ceded New Holland, established in 1623 in the current state of New York, to the English. To defeat the Iroquois and contain the English, King Louis XIV decided to send an infantry regiment to New France. This regiment was composed of 1200 men under the command of Colonel Carignan-Salières. It is within this army troop that Antoine found his way to Canada, as a simple soldier in the company commanded by Captain Froment.

This young soldier with the military surname of Desjardins left the port of La Rochelle on 19 April 1665 on board the sail ship Le Vieux Siméon. Two months later on 19 June 1665, he landed on the quays of the City of Quebec. He was part of the advance party for the regiment expedited by the king that included the four companies under captains Chambly, Froment, La Tour, and Petit. While waiting the arrival of the remaining companies of the regiment, which numbered twenty in all, the freshly disembarked troops left Quebec on 23 July 1665 for the foot of the rapids on the Richelieu River near Montreal. There with the other soldiers that made up the advance party, Antoine Roy helped construct a wooden fort named Fort Saint Louis. Two other forts were also raised in the region, facing the English and their allies the Iroquois -- Fort Richelieu and Fort Sainte Thérèse. After the arrival of the rest of the troops, the 24 companies of the regiment were posted to several locations in Canada. Eight companies were garrisoned in Quebec, one at Sainte Famille on l'Ile d'Orleans, three at Trois Rivières, five at Montreal, two at Fort Saint Louis, two at Fort Richelieu, and three at Fort Sainte Thérèse. The company to which Antoine Roy belonged was posted to Trois Rivières, where it remained for two years from the fall of 1665 to the summer of 1667.

As soon as peace between the French and Iroquois was settled on 8 July 1667 at Quebec City, the Carignan-Salières Regiment was recalled to France. Its presence in North America was no longer required since the Iroquois had been pacified and the Algonquins were allies. Both Indian nations formed a protective barrier between the French colony in Canada and the various English establishments further south. On 28 August 1667, the expeditionary force left the port of Quebec on board the Saint Sébastien bound for France. Of the 1200 soldiers who had come in 1665 to fight the Iroquois, only 550 returned to their native country. 250 had died during the French Indian wars, and 400 others decided to remain in Canada. Antoine was among those that remained along the Saint Lawrence River.

At the end of the month of August, 1668, the cooper Antoine Roy dit Desjardins leaves Batiscan to go to Québec where several dozen Filles du roi awaited. This ex-soldier of the Carignan regiment chose Marie Major. About thirty years old and orphaned of her mother and father, the young woman is originally from Saint-Thomas-de-Touques in Normandy. Her dowry is made up of goods valued at 300 livres.

Their marriage is celebrated on September 11 1669, in Québec, in the presence of several witnesses. The couple then takes the road for Batiscan where Antoine Roy had already obtained a first piece of land in 1667. Pierre, their only child, was born in the summer of 1669.

Even though two other pieces of land were later granted to him, this settler was not a model ground clearer. The census of 1681 specifies that only five arpents of the land that he possessed had been brought to use and that the total of his livestock was made up of a couple of horned beasts.

The Roys dit Desjardins are poor. Their meagre possessions are soon mortgaged. Not knowing how to manage his affairs correctly, he began acquiring debt in 1674 that finally pushed his creditors to take him to court at Trois Rivières in 1682. Pressed by his lenders, totally unable to honor his debts, Antoine fled his household in June 1683 to live alone at Julien Talua's household in Lachine on the Isle of Montreal. There he pursued his career as a master cooper. Found by Michel Lecourt, his principal lender, he was again dragged before the court, this time in Montreal in May 1684 where he was thrown in jail until June 15th. Two weeks later, on June 30th, he again spent the day in jail. On 1 July 1684 he accepted the terms offered by Michel Lecourt to settle his outstanding debts of several years.

This was a short-lived respite. On 10 July, around six in the morning, Julien Talua surprised Antoine in flagrant adultery, lying in bed with his wife, Anne Godeby. The duped husband revolted by the sight did not hesitate to kill his lodger right then and there. Thus ended the pitiful life of Antoine, a cooper originally from Joigny who had come to Canada to rebuild his life. The foolhardy lover of Anne Godeby was 49 years old when he was expedited violently to the kingdom of the dead.

Marie Major will, in her turn, be prosecuted by the creditors who will obtain the seizure of all the property acquired during her marriage. She died in the Hôtel Dieu de Québec on December 8, 1689, leaving behind a son whose descendants live today.

*Neither in the religious marriage entry nor in the contract signed a week earlier on 6 September 1668, was any mention made that Antoine was previously married to a deceased woman named Catherine Byot. One can only wonder with good reason at this serious omission. The parish registers of the three churches of Joigny do not show a death entry for Catherine Byot. Did she die elsewhere? Was she abandoned by her husband in Joigny or elsewhere? Whatever the reason, Antoine did not judge it relevant to mention to either the notary or the pastor of Quebec that he had been previously married. Either his first wife was still living or he was incapable of rapidly producing a death certificate. In light of his pitiful demise, one cannot reject the theory that Antoine might have simply abandoned his first wife as a way out of difficulties in France.

Relationship:

Us -> Joseph John Thibault -> Joseph John Thibault -> Magloire Thibault -> Emilie Gendron -> Adelaide Morin -> Madeline-Perpetue Ouelette -> Joseph Ouelette -> Marie Josephe Tardiff -> Geneviève Roy-Desjardins -> Pierre Roy-Desjardins -> Antoine Roy dit Desjardins and Marie Majors

Julien Talua was charged with murder and was supposed to be hanged but for some reason he was released and ordered to stay within a mile of Lachine but soon disappeared. He is believed to have fled back to France. Julien's wife was banished from Montreal not to return under penalty of flogging. She lived the remainder of her life in Quebec.

Our Acadian Ancestors

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Michel Boudrot was born about 1600 in Cougnes, de La Rochelle, France, arriving in Acadia before 1639. The 1671 census for Port-royal, he was a laborer and was also a civil and criminal lieutenant general (judge) according to the 1686 census. He married Michelle Aucoin who gave him eleven children. Their daughter Marguerite married Francois Bourg in 1665. Marguerite & Francois' daughter Anne-Jeanne married Charles Melanson in 1700. Anne-Jeanne was 16. They gave birth to a daughter Marie who married Charles Godin Boisjoli/Bellefontaine in 1733. Their daughter Anne married Jean-Baptiste Chaloux Chalou in 1765. They had a daughter Marie-Josephe who married Pierre Sirois at the age of 14. Marie and Pierre had a daughter Marie-Josepthe who married Vincent Rioux. Marie and Vincent had 18 children; including daughters Felicite and Basillisse. Felicite is great great grandmother of Madonna and Basillisse is our great great great grandmother. And there our maternal line to Mothers of Acadia ends.

Who are the Mothers of Acadia. These are women who came from France and settled in the Acadian region of Canada and whose decendants were subjected to the Le Grand Dérangement . All indications of my records show that our decendants were not part of this deportion although they eventually came to the United States.

Joachim Thibault de Courville

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Joachim Thibault de Courville (died 1581) was a French composer, singer, lutenist, and player of the lyre, of the late Renaissance. He was a close associate of poet Jean Antoine de Baïf, and with Baïf was the co-founder of the Académie de Poésie et de Musique, which attempted to re-create the storied ethical and moral effect of ancient Greek music through a type of vocal musical composition known as musique mesurée.

Very little is known of Courville's life prior to his association with Baïf. Sometime in the mid 1560s Courville made the acquaintance of the famous poet, who was so impressed with his playing and singing that he called him "the master of the art of singing well." During this period Courville was employed as official lyre-player to King Charles IX. In 1567 Courville began to collaborate with Baïf on the composition of vers mesurés, verses written mostly by Baïf in which the French words were given long-short syllabic treatment in imitation of the supposed method used in Ancient Greek dramatic poetry; Courville set them to music. In 1570 the two, with the backing of the king, founded the Académie de Poésie et de Musique, inviting a few other professional musicians and aristocratic patrons; however they maintained a high level of secrecy in their undertaking, which was intended to reform not only music, but mankind. Baïf and Courville, reading accounts of the ethical and moral effects of such dramatic poetry in Ancient Greece, believed that hearers of their new musique mesurée, could be moved to become virtuous. The members of the Académie planned to perform their music widely once they had perfected their method.

The Académie disbanded after several years, probably under the stress of the religious violence which tore France apart during the last third of the 16th century, for both Protestants and Catholics were members, and King Henri III (who assumed the throne on the death of Charles IX in 1574) wanted to change the character of the Académie from a musical to a philosophical institution. By the 1580s the style Courville had developed was being used for setting of highly secular, sometimes sacrilegious, and occasionally erotic verse, something which was probably not his original intent.

No music by Courville has directly survived: he maintained secrecy as ordered by the Académie, and published none of his own music. However some of the chansons published by others, for example Fabrice Caietain and Claude Le Jeune, are presumed to contain either passages by Courville or stylistic copies. Courville died in 1581 in Paris.

Courville's lyre was a unique instrument, consisting of eleven strings, and often being played with a bow. It was modeled after a supposed Ancient Greek instrument.

Fr. Jean-Baptiste Thibault

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Jean-Baptiste Thibault (14 December 1810 – 4 April 1879) son of Jean-Baptiste Thibault and Charlotte Carrier; d. 4 April 1879 at Saint-Denis-de-la-Bouteillerie (Kamouraska County), Quebec was a Roman Catholic priest and missionary noted for his role in negotiating on behalf of the Government of Canada during the Red River Rebellion of 1869 – 1870. He also established the first Roman Catholic mission in what would become Alberta, at Lac Sainte Anne in 1842. Jean-Baptiste was a decendant of Francois Thibault and Elisabeth Levebvre.

Jean-Baptiste Thibault, a farmer’s son, received his classical and theological education at the seminary of Quebec, where on 31 March 1833 he was admitted into the subdiaconate. On 28 April he set out for the North-West. Contrary to several of his predecessors, he had no debt to pay before his departure. Yet the Thibault family was scarcely well-to-do, if the sums of money that the bishopric subsequently sent rather often to his father are an indication.

During the voyage, the missionary was frequently shocked by the behaviour of the crew. Unable to quiet them, or to ensure the use of more acceptable language, he complained to the captain. He was sturdy, but, hampered by his timidity, he was unable to enforce respect from those who provoked him. This timidity was to be construed as pride when Thibault, feeling ill at ease with the employees, later refused the hospitality offered at the Hudson’s Bay Company’s trading posts. He arrived at Saint-Boniface in June 1833, and began to study the Cree and Chippewa languages. On 8 September he was ordained priest by Bishop Joseph-Norbert Provencher.

Two years later, in the bishop’s absence, Thibault showed himself to be a wise and skilful administrator of the western missions. The building of the cathedral at Saint-Boniface progressed, and the yield from the farm belonging to the mission increased. Thibault proved to be a good preacher, without being too verbose. Above all, he was good at expounding; this quality was appreciated by Bishop Provencher, who considered that Christianity should be brought to the Indians by persuasion, and not “in the Protestant fashion” by gifts. In such a manner the ministers of the different faiths accused each other of trading in souls.

In 1842, therefore, at the request of the Indians and Métis, Bishop Provencher sent Thibault as a missionary across the prairies to the Rocky Mountains. The bishop made this decision unknown to the HBC, which had refused to approve his plan; Thibault, however, met the preference of the company for Canadian rather than French missionaries. His first journey lasted six months, during which, prudently, he travelled on horseback across the plains as far as Edmonton House – the first Catholic or Protestant missionary to adopt this form of transportation. Delighted with the politeness and cordial welcome extended to him by the commandants of the company’s forts, he preached the gospel to all the Canadiens, Indians, and Métis who came to him. He welcomed the Blackfeet, whom he described thus: “These Indians . . . are very clean, and very well-disposed towards the whites; but their number, their warlike qualities, and particularly their rapacity make them the terror of their redskin enemies. They have only a very imperfect idea of the divinity.” This journey, the prelude to the diffusion of Catholicism throughout the American northwest, bore fruit: Thibault conducted 353 baptisms and celebrated 20 marriages, in addition to acquiring a better knowledge of the religious needs of this vast region.

For 10 years the missionary worked discreetly, without displaying excessive zeal, and visited the meeting-places of the Indians and Métis. Thibault was probably the first Catholic missionary to make his way to several of the HBC posts and to several places where the Oblates were later to establish missions [see Eynard; Reynard]. However, only one foundation is acknowledged unanimously as his, the Lake St Anne mission. Crees were accustomed to stay in this spot, which they called Devil’s Lake; Thibault substituted the name of St Anne. He stayed there in 1842 and 1843, but it was only in the summer of 1844 that a house was built for the missionary.

In 1852, acting on Thibault’s request to return to Quebec, Bishop Provencher recalled him to Red River. When Thibault reached Saint-Boniface, however, Provencher asked him to stay there, as there was no one to minister to the region. Thibault did so, and did not return to the diocese of Quebec until 1868.

While at Quebec in the autumn of 1869, Thibault was visited by Hector-Louis Langevin, who asked him to go to Red River as a representative of the Canadian government. Thibault was believed to have a great influence over the Métis. Some of them had just refused to allow William McDougall, who had been appointed lieutenant governor of the North-West Territories by the Canadian government, to enter the settlement. By this action the Métis and their leader, Louis Riel, meant to force the federal government to negotiate with them the terms of their union with Canada. Conjointly with Charles-René-Léonidas d’Irumberry de Salaberry, Thibault was to reassure them that Ottawa intended to respect their rights and not to treat them as a conquered people, and to convince them to lay down their arms [see Sir John Young]. A third delegate, Donald Alexander Smith, was for his part to set at rest the minds of the company’s directors, and to discuss with all “the people of Red River” the conditions of their entry into the dominion. The prime minister, John A. Macdonald, judging Thibault to be “a sensible old French Canadian” and “a shrewd and at the same time a kindly old gentleman,” was of the opinion that, if he accomplished nothing in particular, at least he would not commit any blunders since he knew the region and supported the Canadian government. A reserved and prudent man, Thibault was content to remain in the background, and this was where circumstances kept him during his governmental mission.

Salaberry having remained at Pembina, Thibault, on 25 December, arrived in the west alone. By order of the recently proclaimed provisional government, Thibault was escorted to the bishop’s palace at Saint-Boniface, where he was kept under surveillance so that he would not meddle in political affairs. On 6 Jan. 1870 Louis Riel and his council received Thibault and also Salaberry, who had just arrived. “Immediately we communicated our instructions to the president [Riel] and his council,” Thibault recounted, “and they took them under consideration.” However, no comment was received, and four days later Thibault wrote to the provisional government to ask about the conditions required by the colony in the event of its union with Canada, “in order that we can submit them,” he said, “to the examination of the government that sent us.” The next day the council replied to him that the documents Thibault and Salaberry had submitted did not confer on them the necessary powers to conclude an agreement. On 13 January the council expressed this opinion to Thibault and Salaberry by word of mouth. According to the commissioner D. A. Smith, Thibault ceased to be useful from then on. In general, historians agree that he had no influence on the course of events. But Smith wrote that had it not been for the steps Thibault took during the night of 19–20 January, he himself would have succeeded in settling everything at this time. During that night, as Smith has it, Thibault contributed to a closing of the ranks of the demonstrators, who that day had held public meetings which Smith’s money and promises had managed to break up. Subsequently Riel’s position grew stronger, and he became formally president of the provisional government, whose bases were enlarged. Then delegates were sent to Ottawa to negotiate the entry of the Red River colony into confederation [see John Black]. Was Thibault partly responsible for this sudden change? In his report, he said that he had had “to reason with the leaders, and with the people; always, however, by conversations with single individuals, as that seemed to me the best . . . way of effecting any good result.”

Thibault stayed two more years at Red River, ministering to the parish of Saint-François-Xavier; then in 1871 he accepted the post of vicar general of the diocese. The following autumn he returned to the east for good, and was successively in charge of the parishes of Sainte-Louise (L’Islet County) and Saint-Denis-de-la-Bouteillerie.

http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?BioId=39413

Jean-Baptist is our 4th cousin 5x removed.

Jacques Anatole Francois Thibault (Anatole France)

2010-11-16T06:46:00.000-08:00

Born: 16-Apr-1844

Birthplace: Paris, France

Died: 13-Oct-1924

Anatole France, pseudonym for Jacques Anatole Thibault (1844-1924), was the son of a Paris book dealer. He was French poet, journalist, and novelist. Born in Paris he died in Saint-Cyr-sur-Loire. He was a successful novelist, with several best-sellers. Ironic and skeptical, he was considered in his day the ideal French man of letters. He was a member of the Académie française, and won the Nobel Prize for Literature.

Anatole France began his career as a poet and a journalist. In 1869, Le Parnasse Contemporain published one of his poems, La Part de Madeleine. In 1875, he sat on the committee which was in charge of the third Parnasse Contemporain compilation. He moved Paul Verlaine and Mallarmé aside of this Parnasse. As a journalist, from 1867, he wrote a lot of articles and notices. He became famous with the novel Le Crime de Sylvestre Bonnard (1881). Its protagonist, skeptical old scholar Sylvester Bonnard, embodied France's own personality. The novel was praised for its elegant prose and won him a prize from the French Academy. In La Rotisserie de la Reine Pedauque (1893) Anatole France ridiculed belief in the occult; and in Les Opinions de Jerome Coignard (1893), France captured the atmosphere of the fin de siècle.

He was elected to the Académie française in 1896.

France took an important part in the Dreyfus Affair. He signed Emile Zola's manifesto supporting Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer who had been falsely convicted of espionage. France wrote about the affair in his 1901 novel Monsieur Bergeret.

France's later works include L'Île des Pingouins (1908) which satirizes human nature by depicting the transformation of penguins into humans - after the animals have been baptized in error by the nearsighted Abbot Mael. La Revolte des Anges (1914) is often considered France's most profound novel. It tells the story of Arcade, the guardian angel of Maurice d'Esparvieu. Arcade falls in love, joins the revolutionary movement of angels, and towards the end realizes that the overthrow of God is meaningless unless "in ourselves and in ourselves alone we attack and destroy Ialdabaoth."

In 1922, France's entire works were put on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum (Prohibited Books Index) of the Roman Catholic Church.[2] This Index was abolished in 1966.

Remember Our Veterans

2010-11-11T07:39:00.000-08:00

Dad in Okinawa, Japan
Korean War

Thibault Fire Trucks

2010-10-07T13:53:00.000-07:00

Contributed by Marilyn Thibault

The history of the Canadian fire truck industry and the name Thibault go hand in hand. From humble beginnings in rural Quebec, the Thibault family created a dynasty in fire truck manufacture in the province. Although Pierre Thibault Fire Trucks is no longer in operation today, the name Thibault is still found throughout fire departments across Canada and around the world.

In 1908, Charles Thibault started building hand pumps in Saint-Robert Quebec. After a few years, he moved his operation to the nearby city of Sorel, where he built a variety of horse-drawn apparatus, some mounted on sleighs for winter use in small communities in Quebec. In 1918, he built his first motorised unit, a Ford for Campbellton, New Brunswick. The twenties were apparently a quiet time for the company and the Great Depression didn't help matters. In 1938, Charles' son Pierre took over the operation and moved it to Pierreville, Quebec.

During the Second World War, the company was extremely busy building crash tenders, trailer pumps and hose fittings for the Canadian government. After the war ended, the company expanded its efforts in selling fire trucks to municipalities. It started building its own line of pumps, similar to Hale pumps. In 1950, Thibault introduced a custom chassis (known as the WIT - likely an acronym) and the first unit, a pumper, was sold to Valleyfield, Quebec. A cab-forward version (the AWIT - the "A" may stand for "avant," French for "forward") came in 1957 or 1958. In 1960, an aerial ladder was introduced. In a 1963 ad, Thibault boasted of the strength of its aerial by hanging a sling containing a Volkswagen Beetle from the tip. Fire departments appreciated this feature and this new product became very popular. In addition to aerial trucks built by the company in Pierreville, many aerial assemblies were supplied to American builders where they became part of new ladder trucks for communities large and small. For many years, Thibault was one of the few, if not only, Canadian company that could claim the complete manufacture of vehicles from start to finish - pumps, chassis and aerial ladders. Most Canadian apparatus manufacturers tend to assemble components purchased elsewhere. By the end of the 1950s, Thibault apparatus was spread across Canada. The 60s saw considerable expansion into the U.S. market and some sales in the Caribbean and Latin America. http://thibault-fire-engines.com/

We are related to these Thibault's through Guillaume Thibault and Marie-Madeleine Lefrancois, ancestors of Delia Beaulieu.

Le Grand Dérangement

2010-09-10T18:32:00.000-07:00

In 1755, almost 10,000 French settlers were expelled from the Acadia area of Canada because they refused to take an oath of allegiance to the British government. I do not know if any of these people were our ancestors but I do know that many of the names involved are in our tree.

This area, it seems, had been in conflict from the day it was born, passing back and forth between France and England. Here the French catholic immigrants settled and, despite a lack of farming experience, flourished. The soil was rich, the summers warm, and crops grew. These people had a distinct culture and language.

When the area again came under British rule, the government looked closely at these people. They were of French descent and Catholic. Where would their allegiance lie in times of war? It was decided to demand an oath of allegiance to Britain. The Acadians objected and the government, at that time, didn't enforce it, and for some time the issue was forgotten, at least by the French.

In 1755, Britain again looked to Acadia. The French population, with no oath of allegiance, had rapidly expanded and, to make matters worse, the Native population, especially the Huron, sided with the French. Again, the government demanded that the oath of allegiance be signed by the French settlers, and this time the law had grown teeth. Those who did not sign would be expelled from the country.

Many, happy with their lives and the good living they had in the New World, did sign the oath hoping that there would never be a reason it would be in effect. Others fled to other parts of Canada. For those who refused to sign, expulsion was the answer. They were loaded onto ships and sailed out of the country. This was a time of real hardship. Families were split up, possessions had to be left behind, and, worst of all, they were sailing off to unfamiliar territory. Some returned to France. Many settled in the New England States. About 300 Acadians settled in Louisiana which already had a large French population. A few, for some strange reason, sailed to England. Homes and crops left behind were burned to the ground. This was to discourage any hopes the people might have of returning. There was nothing left to return to; however, some did return.

Additional readings:

Acadia and the Acadians
The Acadian Expulsion
THE SHIPS OF THE ACADIAN EXPULSION

In Literature - Evangeline

This lengthy narrative poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow is based on a tale of hearsay (which the poet heard from a friend of Hawthorne, who had it from an Acadian woman). It is told against the historical background of the British expulsion in 1755 of the French-speaking Acadians from their lands along the shores of the Bay of Fundy—le grand dérangement (as the Acadians still call it), which had to do with the end of a 150-year struggle between France and England for possession of what is now Nova Scotia. Evangeline tells the story of an Acadian girl who is separated from her betrothed at the time of the expulsion and wanders in search of him throughout the American Midwest and the Atlantic states, only to find him years later on his deathbed. After he dies in her arms, Evangeline too dies, released from a life of exile and steadfast loyalty that has received no reward on earth.

Hélène Desportes

2010-08-31T13:06:00.000-07:00

Hélène Desportes is often cited as the first white child born in Canada, New France. There is considerable disagreement about when she was born and, in particular, if she was born in Quebec or before she arrived on the continent. Her parents were French habitants Pierre Desportes (1580- after 1629), who was in charge of the warehouse in Quebec as well as the village baker, and his wife Françoise Langlois (c1595- after 1629), who settled in Quebec. Her father was a lawyer in the Parlement de Paris and an investor in the Company of 100 Associates which funded Champlain's colony.

Her godmother was Madame Hélène Boullé, the wife of Samuel de Champlain. In his will, Champlain left her 300 livres (about $15,000 in 1997).

After the fall of Québec City in 1629, Hélène and her parents, along with Champlain were transported to London, and then back to France. Shortly after peace was restored in 1632, Hélène returned to Québec, possibly with Champlain who arrived back in Québec on May 16, 1633.

On the first of October 1634, Hélène married Joseph Guillaume HÉBERT, son of Louis Hébert and Marie Rollet. Joseph's family had remained in Québec during the occupation and had the first farm there. His father LOUIS HEBERT had been involved in early expeditions to Port Royal with Champlain and others.

After Joseph Hebert died in 1639, Hélène was left with three living children one of which, Marie-Francoise Hebert, was our decendant. Hélène then married Noël Morin, a native of the parish of St-Étienne in Brie-Comte-Robert, a village near Paris, on January 9, 1640, in Quebec City. They had 12 children, we are decendant of their daughter Agnes Morin.

Perhaps aided by having personally brought 19 of her own children into the world, Hélène learned the profession of sage femme, which is the French expression for midwife. She passed that profession on to two of her daughters.

Catherine Baillon: A Royal Connection

2010-08-15T20:54:00.000-07:00

Catherine Baillon was the daughter of Alphonse de Baillon, Sieur de Valence et de la Mascotterie, and Louise de Marle. She was born around 1645, probably near Montfort-l'Amaury, Île-de-France, outside of Paris. Her parents were members of the minor French nobility. She came to New France around 1669 as a Fille du Roi and married Jacques Miville dit Deschênes on 12 November 1669 at Québec City. Together they had six children. Both Jacques and Catherine died on 27 January 1688 at Rivière-Ouelle, and it is likely they were victims of the smallpox epidemic that struck Québec in 1687.

Catherine Baillon's descent from King Philippe II Auguste of France (a descendant of Charlemagne and wife Hildegard) has been carefully researched in original sources by four genealogists who are well-known for their past accurate and well-documented works: René Jetté, John P. DuLong, Roland-Yves Gagné, and Gail F. Moreau.

Thousands of descendants of French-Canadian ancestors are able to claim royal blood by way of descent from Catherine Baillon. We are one of them.

Charlemagne 747-814
Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire 800-814

Pepin I (Karlmann) 777-810 (mother Hildegard)
King of Italy 781-810

Bernhard I 797- 818 (illegitimate son of Karlmann)
King of Italy 813-817

Pepin (mother Cunigunda)
Comte de Senlis, Peronne and St.Quintin

Heribert I 850- 900 (mother unknown)
Comte de Vermandois

Heribert II 879- 943 (mother Bertha de Morvois)
Comte de Meaux, Soissons et Vermandois

Adela de Vermandois (mother Hildebrante of France)
910- 960

Baudouin III 940- 962 (father Arnulf I, Count of Flanders)
Count of Flanders

Arnulf II 961- 987 (mother Mathilde Billung of Saxony)
Count of Flanders 973-987

Baudouin IV 980-1035 (mother Rozala of Lombardy/Italy)
Count of Flanders 987-1035

Baudouin V 1012-1067 (mother Ogive of Luxembourg)
Count of Flanders 1035-1067

Matilda of Flanders (mother Adèle of France)
m. William the Conqueror 1031-1083

Adela of Normandy (father William the Conqueror)
1062-1138

Theobald IV-II 1085-1152 (father Stephen II, Count of Blois)
Comte de Blois et Chartres et Champagne Count of Blois and of Chartres as Theobald IV from 1102 and was Count of Champagne and of Brie as Theobald II from 1125.

Alix de Blois also known as Adèle of Champagne (mother Matilda of Carinthia) 1140-1206 m. Louis VII of France (3rd wife)
Regent of France

Philippe II August 1165-1223 (father Louis VII)
King of France 1180-1223

Marie de France (mother Agnes de Merania)
1198-1224

Elisabeth of Brabant ( father Henry I, Duke of Brabant)

Mechtild von Kleef (father Thierry de CLEVES)

Marguerite de Luxembourg (father Gerhard III von LUXEMBURG)

Jean IV de Ghistelles (father Jean III de GHISTELLES)

Roger de Ghistelles (mother possibly Marie van HAVESKERKE)Seigneur de Dudzeele et de Straten

Isabella de Ghistelles (mother Marie van HAVESKERKE)

Catherine de Gavre (father Arnold VI van GAVRE )Dame de La Boissiere et de Vaux-sur-Orge

Guy II Le Bouteiller (father Guy I Le Bouteiller , Seigneur de la Bouteillieur)
Seigneur de La Bouteillerie et de La Roche-Guyon

Jean Le Bouteiller (mother Isabelle Morhier)
Seigneur de La Bouteillerie, de Vaux-sur-Orge

Bénigne Le Bouteiller (mother Marie De Venois)
Dame de La Boissière

Miles Maillard (fatherJacques De Maillard)
Seigneur du Breuil et de La Broissière

Renée de Maillard (mother Marie Morant)

Alphonse Baillon (father Adam Baillon)
Seigneur de La Mascotterie, des Enclaves et de Valence en

Catherine Baillon (mother Louise De Marle) m. Jacques Miville Deschenes
1645-1688

Jean Miville dit Deschênes m. Marie Dube

Angélique Miville dit Deschênes m. Mathurine Berube

Joseph Bérubé m. Marie-Angelique Thibault (decendant of Guilliaume Thibault)

Therese Bérubé m. Charles Beaupre

Pierre Beaupre m. Theotiste Boucher

Pierre Beaupre m. Helene Castonguay

Georgina Beaupre m. Amable Beaulieu

Delia Beaulieu m. Magloire Thibault

Joseph John Thibault m. Mary O'Neil

Joseph John Thibault m. Helen

What do Prince Charles, Lady Diana and Churchill have to do with us?

2010-08-10T12:27:00.000-07:00

There is a possiblility of a relationship with the Royal Family through Digory Sargent. Digory's 3rd grandmother was Margaret Gifford and her great grandmother was Mary Nanseglos. It seems that Mary maybe Charles 13th Great Grandmother and Diana's 14th Great Grandmother as well as Churchill's 12th Great Grandmother and as far as I can figure out she is our 16th Great Grandmother.

Through the Giffords or Gifards we are decendant of King Ethelred II of England (our 32nd Great Grandfather) and coincidentally Dick Cheney. King Ethelred was a complete disaster and lost almost all of England to the Vikings.

Ethelred II, King of England m. Alfflaed

Elgiva of England m. Uchtred, Earl of Northumberland

Edith of Northumberland m. Maldred, lord of Carlisle and Allendale

Gospatrick I, Earl of Northumberland and Dunbar m. ----

Gospatrick II, Earl of Dunbar m. Sybil Morel

Juliana of Dunbar m. Ralph de Merlay

Roger de Merlay m. Alice de Stuteville

Agnes de Merlay m. Richard Gobion

Hugh Gobion m. Matilda ----

Joan Gobion m. John de Morteyn

Sir John de Morteyn m. Joan de Rothwell

Lucy de Morteyn m. Sir John Giffard

Sir Thomas Giffard m. Elizabeth de Missenden

Roger Giffard m. Isabel Stretle

Thomas Giffard m. Eleanor Vaux

John Giffard m. Agnes Winslow

Roger Giffard m. Mary Nanseglos

Nicholas Giffard m. Agnes Master

Margaret Giffard m. Hugh Sargent

Roger Sargent m. Ellen Makerness

John Sargent m. Anne Orpin

John Sargent m. Martha Axford

Digory Sargent

John Giffard (1232–1299), baron Giffard of Bromsfield, was an English nobleman prominent in the Second Barons' War and in Wales. With others of Simon de Montfort's party he in 1263 besieged the sheriff of Gloucester in Gloucester Castle. Also in that year he with others abducted Peter of Aigueblanche, the Bishop of Hereford, confining him to Eardisley Castle.

In 1264 he controlled Kenilworth Castle, and successfully attacked Warwick Castle, occupied by William Maudit, 8th Earl of Warwick. Captured at the Battle of Lewes, he changed sides, and fought for Henry III at the Battle of Evesham.

He was subsequently a staunch king's man, for Henry and Edward I of England. He fought at the decisive Battle of Orewin Bridge (1282). Edward granted him Welsh castles, including Carreg Cennen.

His initial gift of land in Oxford led to the foundation of Gloucester College, Oxford .He married Maud de Clifford. Their son John (1287-1322 was executed by Edward II as a rebel, and Brimpsfield Castle was destroyed.

We are now back to 990 Normandie France when Osbern De Bolebec, father of Osborne Gifford was born. Osborne was born in England in 1004 (some sites claim 1049 but that would have made his mother 75). We can then trace through Osborne's mother Avelina De Crepon to King of Denmark Gorm the Old and Harold "Bluetooth".

From there we find Gorm the Old's grandfather Sigurd Snake-in-the-eye, named for a congenital defect. From there we go way up the line to 100BC and Fornjot "the Ancient Giant", King of Kvenland, b. ca. 100 BC. He is ancient Finland's first and most powerful ruler. He may be the Kalev of the Kalevala Saga. He is also the subject of the Fundinn Noregr (founding of Norway).

One World Tree

2010-08-09T09:31:00.000-07:00

One World Tree is a beta project of ancestory.com. OneWorldTree gathers family trees and family history records for millions of people, analyzes the birth, death and marriage data and then displays the most probable matches for your ancestors. I've been playing a bit with this and discovered Fabien Thibault has been entered into the tree. I've found probable matches with the following:

Five First Ladies (not including already knowing we are related to Hillary Rodham Clinton)

Margaret Mackall Smith Taylor was the wife of President Zachary Taylor
Martha Jefferson was married to U.S. President Thomas Jefferson
Elizabeth Kortright Monroe was the wife of President James Monroe
Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy Onassis was the wife of President John F. Kennedy
Laura Bush was the wife of George W. Bush

Several writers

Alexandre Dumas
Rudyard Kipling
Aldous Huxley
T.S. Elliot (we are most definitely 6th cousin 4 times removed from Fabien)
Jack Kerouac (3rd cousin 3 times removed from Fabien)
Mary Flannery O'Connor (really very very distant)

A few of inventors

Robert H. Goddard, the father of modern rocketry
Louis Pasteur is famous for "pasteurization," a means of preventing milk from going sour (how appropriate)
Gottlieb Daimler designed and patented the prototype for the modern gas engine.
William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin, was an Irish Scottish mathematician and scientist known for his contributions to the studies of thermodynamics and electricity.

A signer of the Constitution

Robert Morris Pennsylvania Representative and 26th Great Grandfather of Fabien (maybe)
Prior to signing The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, and The Articles of Confederation;
Robert Morris borrowed money to pay Washington's troops during the Revolutionary War.

Some Actors

John Wayne
Marlon Brando
James Dean
Joan Crawford

Military Heroes

Joan of Arc

and Royalty

Phillip the Good Duke of Burgundy (July 31, 1396 – June 15, 1467)

Many of these are questionable because of missing people in between supposed links and questionable linkage at best, but others are more reliable because I can trace them in our tree.

Georgina Beaupre mother of Delia Beaulieu Thibault

2010-08-01T15:43:00.000-07:00

Nicolas Bonhomme was born in Sainte-Croix de Fécamp in Normandy, between 1603 and 1611. He is the son of Nicolas Bonhomme and Marie Gayon. Nicholas arrived in Quebec during the summer of 1637, he signs a marriage contract at Three-Rivers, September 2 1640. This marriage is the second celebrated after that of Jean Godefrois and Marie LeNeuf, in 1636. His future wife, Catherine Gouget, born towards 1607, daughter of Léonard Gouget and Catherine DuFrançois, was born in Thury-Harcourt, Normandie.

The Gouget/Bonhomme couple spends winter 1640-41 in Quebec In 1642, the couple returns to France, towards end 1644 Ignace Bonhomme dit Beaupre was born. The summer or the autumn of 1645, the couple is back in the colony. Four other children are born in Quebec for a total of seven.

Ignace Bonhomme dit Beaupre marries in 1671, Agnès Morin, daughter of Noël Morin and Helene Desportes and widow of Nicolas Gaudry deceased on June 22 1669. Their son Noel Bonhomme dit Beaupre, born in 1684, married Felicite Hamel, daughter of Jean Hamel and Levasseur Anne-Happiness. The descendants of Ignace use the Beaupré name.

Noel dit Beaupre and Felicite's son Claude Beaupre was born about 1723 in L'Ancienne-Loretteville, Quebec, Canada. He married Genevieve Martin born 1729 in Portneuf, Quebec, Canada.

Claude and Genevieve's son Charles was born 1750 in Quebec. He married Therese Berube daughter of Joseph Berube and Marie-Angelique Thibault decendant of Guilluame Thibault and Marie-Madeleine LeFrancois another Thibault pioneer.

Claude and Therese's son Pierre was born 10 May 1783 in Riviere Ouelle, Quebec, Canada. He married Theostiste Boucher daughter of Francois Boucher and Catherine Hudon and decendant of Marin Boucher and Perrine Mallet.

Pierre and Theostiste's son Pierre Marshall Beaupre was born 8 February 1813. He married Helene Castonguay born 1827 in St Jean Port, Joli, Quebec.

Pierre Marshall and Helene's daughter was Georgina Beaupre. Georgina was born about 1852 in Riviere Ouelle, Quebec, Canada. Georgina married Amable Beaulieu August 30, 1870. They had 11 children

Pierre Armand Beaulieu (Born: 1875)***
Delia Victoria Beaulieu (Born: 1872)
Rose De Lima Beaulieu (Born: 1876)
Omer Beaulieu (Born: 1878)**
Marie Beaulieu (Born 1882)*
Lydia Beaulieu (Born: 1884)
Louis Amable Beaulieu (Born: 1885 died 1886)
Joseph Amable Beaulieu (Born: 1887 died 1887)
Delvina Alphonsine Beaulieu (Born: 1888)*
Elise Beaulieu (Born: 1890)*
Claudia Beaulieu (Born: 1893) *

*Census of 1901 Canada show Marie, (Delvina) Alphonsine, Elise and Claudia living with their parents. Delia was married to Magloire at that time and living in the States.

**Another Census of 1901 Canada shows an Omer Beaulieu 22 yrs. old married to a Marie 19 years old. Omer is a laborer.

***Pierre Armand Beaulieu was married Nov. 19, 1906 at the age of 31 to Marie Rosa Scarbeau age 48 in Ontario, Canada daughter of Isaié Seguin and Mathilde Dutt.

Come out come out

2010-07-19T06:16:00.000-07:00

Seems we have quite a few visitors but few commenters. We'd like to hear from you. What brought you here, do you have some of our ancestors in your tree? Commenting is easy, click on Comments just under the title and let us know what brought you here.

Virtually Visiting Your Loved Ones

2010-07-16T07:07:00.000-07:00

You can visit the grave sites of your loved ones at Greenville, SC's Springwood and Richland cemeteries without leaving your home. Greenville has lauched Cemetery Viewer which allows people to find specific graves or deeded plots in the two cemeteries. One can search by name or death date or search plots by name or number.

The project used cemetery plot maps, receipt books, actual burial records and field data collected using GPS equipment. Each marker in the cemeteries was identified with GPS coordinates; the name, dates, and any other legible information on the marker plus a digital photograph.

You can find Cemetery Viewer at http://www.greenvillesc.gov/Culture/History/cemeteries/CemeteryViewer.aspx

Brookdale Cemetery in Dedham, MA also has a viewer but it doesn't seem as nice; i.e. no pictures. You can find it at http://gis.dedham-ma.gov/brookdale/. For Family, note that there are two spellings Thibault and Thibeault. You'll find Magloire, Delia, Grandpa Joseph and Grandma Mary O'Neil and our baby sister under the Thibeault spelling and a baby boy named John born to Magloire and Delia under the Thibault spelling.

Confusion Reigns - Intermarriages

2010-07-07T18:30:00.000-07:00

Filling in the blanks of family members you often get totally confused as you remember seeing these names before. You have a right to your confusion as intermarriages reign. To show an example, my great great great Grandmother Emilie Berube wife of Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu has the name Levesque in her tree. They all eventually connect 6 generations up but some connect even earlier adding to the confusion.

Tree 1 - ¹Emilie - ²Charles Felix Berube, jr - ³Charles Felix Berube, Sr - Marie Madeline Levesque - Francois-Robert Levesque - Robert Levesque

Tree 2 - ¹Emilie - ²Marie Charlotte dit Beaulieu (m. Charles Felix Berube) - ³Marie Francoise Gagnon - Madeleine Hudon-Beaulieu - Genevieve Levesque - Pierre Jochim - Robert Levesque

Tree 3 - ¹Emilie - ²Charles Felix Berube, jr - ³Marie Rosalie Levesque m. Charles Felix Berube, Sr - Joseph Levesque - Pierre Jochim - Robert Levesque

But wait, there is more. Notice in Tree 2 Hudon-Beaulieu? Yep Emilie and her husband are related. Pierre Hudon dit Beaulieu and Marie Gobeil are 4th generation Great Grandparents of both Emilie and Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu plus Emilie is twice related to her to Pierre & Marie. Emilie's Grandfather Francois is second cousin once removed from Madeline Hudon-Beaulieu her Grandmother's mother.

Tree A - ¹Joseph Hudon Beaulieu (m. Emily) - ²Joseph Sr., ³Pierre - Joseph - Nicholas - Pierre & Marie Gobeil

Tree B - ¹Emilie Berube (m. Joseph) - ²Marie Charlotte Hudon Beaulieu (m. Charles, Jr) - ³Francois Gregoire - Joseph Basile, Jean Bernard - Pierre & Marie Gobeil

Tree C - ¹Emiliy Berube (m.Joseph) - ²Marie Charlotte Hudon Beaulieu (m. Charles, Jr) - ³Marie Francoise Gagnon (m. Francois Gregoire in Tree B) - Madeline Hudon-Beaulieu - Louis Charles - Pierre & Marie Gobeil

Trees 2 & 3 Genevieve Levesque is sister of Joseph Levesque and therefore Charles Jr. and his wife Marie Charlotte are related as 2nd Cousins once removed I think.

Confused yet? I am.

Finding not what your looking for

2010-07-04T11:55:00.000-07:00

It has always been maintained that our family had Canadian Indian ancestory, however, a cursory look at the tree shed no light but rumors surround two members; Jean Cote and Anne Martin.

Mathieu de/da COSTE' was the first African known to have lived and worked in what is now known as "Canada" (Acadia, Mi'kmaki[2]) in the early 1600s. He may have been Jean Cotes father, but most likely he wasn't. Below is some speculation.

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE's date and place of birth and baptism are unknown but believed to be ca 1604. The names of his biological parents are not recorded, which would not be surprising if he were of Mi'kmaq and African heritage, the only interest the European recorders had was in recording their own children (e.g. the first European child born in "Canada" who survived to adulthood is believed to have been born in 1648).

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE', who may have been sent to France for an education and to learn the French language and culture, perhaps with a foster family or godparents named LOISEL, arrived ca 1634 with the fleet "Le Saint Jean".

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' worked for the second Governor of New France, possibly also as "un grumete" or interpreter, Charles Jacques Huault de Montmagny, who also was the first Onontiio, the head of the Franco-Indigene alliance.

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' seems to have had a marriage arranged for him by the Jesuits soon after he arrived in New France. He was married 11 Nov 1635, Anne MARTIN/MATCHONON, and the couple were among the first families established in the colony set up by the Jesuits for their Huron-Wendat converts on the Ile d'Orleans. Being married to a Huron-Wendat woman would have given him the opportunity to learn the language and culture, which he would have needed in his work for the Onontiio. The French appear to have had great difficulty in learning Indigenous languages, which is why there was a great need for skilled interpreters.

Descendants of Anne MARTIN/MATCHONON and Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' were recorded. Noteworthy is that one of the children (a son b. 1642) was named Mathieu. There also was a child named Jean COTE' dit LEFRISE' (a son b. 25 Feb 1644). Le frise' in French means "frizzy-haired person", perhaps this name was given to the child because he was the only one who had "frizzy" (i.e. African) hair, while the other children of Anne and Jean had straight hair like their Indigenous ancestors. Also, a signature of Jean circulating on several websites has the name as "jeancoste' ", perhaps the name was translated later on to the French from the Portuguese "COSTE' ", the "O" with a circumflex accent denotes a lost "S". All the children of the second generation have their names recorded as "COSTE' " and not "COTE".

Anne Martin is another story. Some believe she is half Metis and half French and was the daughter of Abraham MARTIN dit L'ECOSSAIS (1589-1664) and an unknown Huron-Wendat woman; the sister of MATCHONON "a Savage" (according to the Jesuits), but it is doubtful that she is Abraham's daughter. There is, however, a different Anne Martin daughter of Abraham and Marguerite Langlois both in our tree as parents of Marie Martin dit L'Ecossais who married Jean Cloutier. This is probably where the confusion lies.

So who is Anne Martin born 1603? Who is Jean Cote? Questions still remain but little proof exists that either were of Indian or African decent while all records that do exist show that they were born in France and came to Canada sometime around 1634. This Anne Martin could in no way be Abraham Martin's daughter as he would have been all of 14 when she was born in 1603. Jean Cote was not an interpreter as the stories claim, he was a farmer and Anne was not the daughter of Abraham.

Children of Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' and Anne MARTIN

Louis COSTE' b. 25 Oct 1635 m. Kebek 6 Nov 1662 Elizabeth LANGLOIS
Simone COSTE' b. 9 Dec 1637 m. Kebek 16 Nov 1649 Pierre SOUMANDE
Martin COSTE' b. 12 Jul 1638 m. Chateau Richer 25 July 1667 Suzanne PAGE
Mathieu COSTE' b. Kebek 16 Jul 1642 m. 1669 Elizabeth GRAVELLE
Jean COSTE' dit LEFRISE' b. 25 Feb 1644 m. (1) Kebek 11 Nov 1669 Anne COUTURE (2) Kebek 25 Feb 1686 Genevieve VERDON
Noel dit COSTE' b. 4 May 1646 m. Helene GRATON
Marie dit COSTE' b. 12 Jan 1648 d. 25 Jan 1648
Louise dit COSTE' b. 18 Apr 1650

Searching for who Jean Cote and Anne Martin were led to discover that Abraham Martin dit L'Escossais, while not the father of this Anne, was not a nice man. He was accused of raping a 15 year old girl who was later accused and hung for theft.

"On 15 Feb 1649, Abraham Martin was imprisoned for bad conduct towards a young girl, this may or may not have discredited him with his fellow-citizens.

About the imprisonment of Martin the Jesuits recorded this: the Journal des Jésuites for 1649. Little is recorded for January outside of the usual list of New-year's gifts; but " on the pith, occurred the first execution by the hand of the hangman, in the case of a Creature of 15 or 16 years, a thief." At the same time, Abraham Martin is imprisoned on a scandalous charge connected with this poor girl; but "his trial is postponed till the arrival of the vessels".

Sometimes you find what you weren't looking for and it's not pleasant. And still...no Indian blood to be found in our tree.

Le Cat Holland

2010-07-02T09:10:00.000-07:00

Le Cat Holland sailed in April, 1665 under the command of Master Charles Babin. Amongst the passengers was our Francois Thibault. After stops in Dieppe and Gaspe where soldiers from the West Indies , on the Breze , under the command of Monsieur de Tracy boarded Le Cat Holland finally arrived in Quebec on June 18, 1665. Francois boarded Le Chat on March 31, 1665 in the afternoon. Like 73 men who boarded committed for 3 years to Gaigneur Pierre , merchant of La Rochelle he did not sign. This usually meant that he could neither read nor write at the time. Francois was to be paid 75 pounds a year with a 30 pound advance. He was 18 year of age.

Pedigree Charts

2010-06-29T13:47:00.000-07:00

Guillaume Thibault

2010-06-27T14:57:00.000-07:00

Among the many THIBAULTS who came from France and Switzerland, at least fifteen took root in America. Francois son of Louis was one of our ancestors but another was Guillaume Thibault son of Nicolas and Elisabeth Anthiaume. Guillaume was born about 1618 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France. He was a baker and a tailor.

Marie-Madeleine FRANÇOIS (or LeFrançois) was from Metz, Lorraine. Her father, Isaac François, was deceased when his daughter arrived in Canada in the summer of 1654. He had been the Captain of a Light Cavalry unit in France. First mention of Marie-Madeleine in Canada is 11-16-1654 at her marriage contract to Guillaume Thibault. She was not able to sign her name. In January 1655, they were married in Québec. She was about 20 and he was about 37.

At Marie-Madeleine François' marriage to Guillaume Thibault, she brought with her a dowry of 400 livres (pounds). She chose for her husband, a baker and a tailor who was the son of bourgeois parents from Rouen, Normandy. He was able to sign his name, therefore had some education.

Guillaume Thibault had first arrived unmarried in Canada in 1638, then he returned to France probably in 1639 where he lived until 1643. In April of that year, he signed a contract for three years at La Rochelle before Notary Teuleron for a pay of 100 livres a year with 60 livres given in advance. According to the contract, he was living in LaRochelle and working worked as a baker. From this, it can be determined that Marie-Madeleine's dowry of 400 livres was an attractive sum of money.

In 1650, Thibault was established in Chateau-Richer in the county of Montmorency. In December of that year, Olivier Letardif conceded land to Guillaume Thibault at Chateau Richer. Olivier Letardif was one of the sponsors of the 1643 voyage to Canada where many recruits had signed on. Letardif (or Tardif) was the manager of the company store for the Company of 100 Associates in Québec.

The 1666 census picked the family up as living in the Québec area. Thibault had in his employ a recruit named Robert Vaillancourt, a 23-year old coppersmith.

The census of 1667 showed that he owned 5 head of cattle and 15 arpents (acres) of land being farmed.

In February 1682, Thibault purchased the property of Simon Guyon who had recently died for the sum of 2000 livres (pounds).

Guillaume Thibault died at Chateau-Richer 8-21-1686 at the age of 64. On the 28th of April 1695, his estate worth 1175 livres were distributed to his children.

Marie-Madeleine François had a second marriage to François Fafard, a widower, in 1696.

How are we decendants of Guillame and Marie-Madeleine?

Guillaume Thibault m. M. Madeleine Lefrancois
daughter Claire Charlotte Francois Thibault m Felix Aubert
    daughter Marie Charlotte Aubert m. Francois Robert Levesque
       daughter Marie-Madeleine Levesque m. Pierre Berube
         son Charles-Felix Berube m. Marie-Rosalie Levesque
            son Charles-Felix Berube m. Charlotte Hudon
               daughter Emilie Berube m. Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu
                  son Amable Beaulieu m. Georgina Beaupre
                     daughter Delia-Victoria Beaulieu m. Magloire Thibault
                        son Joseph John Thibault m. Mary-Alice O'Neil
                           son Joseph John Thibault

Fathers Day

2010-06-20T07:32:00.000-07:00

What better way on an ancestory blog to remember Father's Day then to remember all our forefathers.

My Great grandfather Magloire Thibault

My grandfather Hans John August Gerull

And finally my Dad

Happy Fathers Day

Noel Morin - 11th Generation Great Grandfather

2010-06-12T08:55:00.000-07:00

Noel Morin was second husband of Helene Desportes whose first husband was Guillame Hebert son of Louis Hebert the First Habitant of New France. Helene is said to be the first white child born in New France.

Noel Morin was born about 1609 in Brie-Comte-Robert, a region of the Paris Basin. Today, the town is the arrondissement of Melun and department of Seine-et-Marne. Noel was baptized at Saint-Etienne which was built in part in the 13th century. During Noel's time, la Brie had a bishop whose episcopal seat was at Meaux.

We know almost nothing about the life in France of the son of Claude Morin and Jeanne Moreau.
Noel immigrated from La Brie to Canada about 1637. He made his first official appearance in its national history on Tuesday, 27 December 1639 at the home of notary Martial Piraude (secretary of the governor Hault de Montmagny and clerk with the clerk's office and tabellionnage of Quebec) where he signed a marriage contract with Helene Desportes, daughter of Pierre Desportes and Francois Langlois, niece of Abraham Martin.

All the important people of the capital gathered to celebrate the signing of Noel's marriage contract: from Jean Bourdon to Jean Jolliet, including Robert Giffard, Guillaume and Louis Couillard, Father Jean Lesueur and, of course, their great ladies!

Why such a formal ceremony? According to Rene Jette, the bride was none other than the first white child born alive in the Saint Lawrence region, baptized at Notre Dame des Roucources, Quebec on 16 July 1620. Her godmother was Helene Boulle, the wife of Samuel de Champlain who named Helene as a beneficiary in his will of 1635.

Helene followed her parents back to France in 1629 and returned to Canada in 1634. At 14 years of age, she had married Guillaume Hebert, son of the first colonist Louis and his wife Marie Rollet. Widowed in September 1639, her uncle Guillaume Couillard undertook the guardianship of her three children, two who survived: son Joseph and daughter Francois. Three months later she chose to become the wife of Noel Morin.

On Monday, 9 January 1640, the Jesuit Nicolas Adam blessed this union in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Pivert and Robert Giffard, surgeon and seigneur in New France. Noel Morin gave his bride for "good friendship" a dowry of 200 livres guaranteed by:

"a house at Brie-Comte-Robert where hangs a sign with the blue horse in the parish of St-Etienne on rue des fontaines near the gate of the town which the said groom received from the succession of his mother."

Therefore, Noel was not a vagabond. On her part, Helene brought to the newly-formed marriage the ownership of a house located near the church of Notre Dame, with "2 arpents of land near Mont-Carmel and a garden measuring 40 perches belonging to the said house."

The 40 perches in area, which were found north of the storehouse of the One Hundred Associates, in the Upper Town, were officially ceded to the Morin couple on 4 September 1640.

Helene continued to be the wife and mother in her house which measured 24 by 18 feet. Noel also lived there until 1645 while practicing his trade of cartwright.

On 26 April 1645, Governor Montmagny gave Noel Morin 50 arpents of land on the Sainte Genevieve coast for 90 livres. He moved his household there and, in a period of 20 years, he built "three frame dwellings, two of which had a heated room each, cellar and attic, the third serving as a shop and attic above, with a barn and two-and-a-half arpents enclosed with stakes and serving as a yard."

It seems very likely that the move to the Sainte Genevieve coast was carried out before 9 September 1648, the day on which Jean Guyon and Michel Leneuf were to examine the first Morin house and its lot located on the tip of Cap-aux-Diamants. Later, the Fabrique de Quebec would purchase it all for 800 livres.

At the same time, Morin requested the recruiter Noel Belanger to find him a hired man in France. On 4 Jun 1649, at La Rochelle, Pierre Paillereau, a laborer from Villedoux, canton of Marans, was hired to work for Noel Morin. On 6 February 1650, Antoine Rouillard and Thomas Touchet promised to build on Noel Morin's land the framework of a house "which will be thirty feet long and twenty feet wide ... six feet under beams." Noel paid 250 livres for this work, in addition to 20 minots of peas to be given to the two carpenters.

On 15 November 1653, Jean de Lauzon, Governor of New France, ceded to Noel Morin a quarter-league of frontal property by a league deep, beginning an arpent below the La Caille River and going up the Saint Lawrence towards the south side. The Ile-aux-Oies were included in this concession. Thus, Seigneur Morin became the owner of a portion of the seigneury of la Riviere-du-Sud, today part of the town of Montmagny.

This acquisition as a fief entailed rights and duties. The new recipient must render faith and homage to the West Indies Company. Noel named his domain Saint Luc, and thereafter bore the title of Sieur de Saint Luc. Why this evangelist rather than another one? Nobody knows. Did the seigneur and seigneuresse intend to leave Quebec, the town where their growing children could be educated? It seems unlikely. This property which fell from the sky would later be divided among their sons, relatives and son-in-law Guillaume Fornier.

The years covering the period from 1653 to 1668 were marked by progress and expansion for both the children and the parents of this family.

On 17 May 1655, Noel and Helene were granted a pew by the Fabrique of Quebec. It was located on the north side, in the nave, near that of Charles Sevestre. In return, the Fabrique received 2 arpents of land which the Morins owned, today the land on which stands the citadel of Quebec. On the following 4th of July, the terms of the transaction were drawn up. The two arpents were appraised at 180 livres. Of this amount, 100 livres were used to pay the tuition of son Germain, a student at the Seminary.

On 5 June 1658, Louis Selillot and Noel Morin agreed to each build their half of a boundary fence between their property at Saint Genevieve. However, Sedillot delayed carrying out his promise for more than four years.

Guillaume Fornier married Francois Hebert (we decended from Francois and Guillaume through Magloire Thibault), stepdaughter of Noel Morin and daughter of Helene and Guilliame Hebert, on 20 November 1651. On 12 September 1663, Guillaume was given a receipt for the 1,000 livres tournois that he had provided to the Morins over a 10-year period, and without prejudicing the rights of succession owned by his wife.

During the same era, through the intervention of his father, Nicolas Morin obtained a concession from the Jesuits at Sillery. Nicholas died a few years later at age 23. Then, on 3 August 1664, the Seigneur de Saint-Luc took part in the election of the mayor Claude Charron.

On 23 May 1666, Noel Morin ceded 30 arpents of land to Jean Pannier for the price of 60 livres. The buyer probably returned to France. On 2 August of the same summer, Jean Poitras bought the other half. In the census of 1666, Marie Charlotte Poitiers (widow of Helene's son Joseph Hebert who was killed by the Iroquois in 1661) lived under the roof of her mother-in-law.

Jean Ballie earned his bread as Noel's hired hand. The following year, Jean was still working for Morin. In addition, Zacharie Jolliet, 17 years old, learned the trade of cartwright from his master, Noel Morin. At that time, the farm had 40 arpents under cultivation and 12 head of cattle. On 20 June 1667, an official report concerning the road which went to Sainte Genevieve was drawn up. It was time to improve it.

In 1668, the die was cast. The homestead on the Saint Michel route, obtained from the Jesuit Fathers on 24 February 1663 in the seigneury of Sillery, 2 arpents of frontage by 25, first assigned to his son Nicholas, passed to his brother Jean-Baptiste Sieur de Rochebelle. The farm was worth 450 livres. Nicholas had died leaving a debt of 75 livres. Jean-Baptiste accepted this land for 475 livres, the value of the inheritance. On the same day, 25 February 1668, Noel Morin named Jean-Baptiste his administrator.

In 1664, Noel Morin had been chosen guardian of Charles Amador Martin, son of Abraham. On 16 April 1669, he gave a signed receipt to the Ursulines of Quebec for 240 livres, a portion of the inheritance in favor of his protege, who would be ordained a priest on 14 March 1671.

On 4 May 1670, the part of the land sold to Pannier was resold for 90 livres by Charles Aubert, Sieur de LaChesnaye.

On 4 January 1671, Helene and Noel indicated their intentions: On the day of their death all their furniture and real estate would be divided between their sons Charles and Alphonse on the condition that they support their parents. Furthermore, the sons would give their young sister, Marie Madeleine, 300 livres when she married. Then on the following 12 November, the Sieur de Saint Luc rendered faith and homage to Louis Couillard, Sier de L'Espinay.

Ignace Bonhomme dit Beaupre married Agnes Morin (we decended from Agnes and Ignace via Delia Beaulieu), daughter of Noel and Helene on 12 January 1671

The master cartwright, 64 years old, did not easily resign himself to idleness. On 15 June 1673, he agreed to "make and perfect" 24 canon mountings and to furnish the necessary wood. "I am familiar," he said, "with these cannons in the Upper and Lower Town." Charles Legardeur, first counsellor to the king and commandant of Chateau Saint Louis, promised to pay for this special work by giving Morin 40 livres per mounting ... in other words 960 livres.

On 30 October 1674, Noel Morin and Louis Bosse agreed to settle a suit amicably. Bosse had obtained a homestead at Montmagny. Without knowing the exact cause of the litigation, Bosse gave his land to his Seigneur Morin and even required compensation of 60 livres. We know that between 1672 and 1676, the Fief of Saint-Luc was divided to the benefit of Guillaume Fournier, Jean Proulx, Alphonse Morin, Pierre Jolliet, Jean Baillie, Michel Isabel, David Corbin, Charles Bazire and Jean Rollandeau.

This is the way things were when Helene Desportes died on the Sainte Genevieve coast on Saint Jean's Day, 24 June 1675. Her burial act was not recorded in the registry, but her name appears there more than 20 times as godmother!

Excerpted from http://moringenealogy.blogspot.com/2007/09/noel-morin.html

Ninth Generation Cousins - Our Great Great Aunt & Uncles

2010-06-09T13:57:00.000-07:00

Cyrille Thibault, son of Fabien (8th Generation), was born October 1870. He was Magloire Thibault's brother.

Cyrille married Marie Thériault daughter of Florian Thériault and Arthémise St-Onge on 11 Feb 1895 in St-François-Xavier, Nashua, NH.

Cyrille married Catherine Aurore Langlais daughter of René Langlais and Virginie Morin on 30 Jul 1900 in Ste-Angèle-de-Mérici, Matane.

They had the following children:

Jean-Baptiste Thibault was born on 23 Jul 1901 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 24 Jul 1901 in Baie-des-Sables. He died on 9 Feb 1904 in Baie-des-Sables. He was buried on 11 Feb 1904 in Baie-des-Sables.
Joseph Michel Thibault was born on 8 Mar 1903 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 9 Mar 1903 in Baie-des-Sables. He died on 1 Apr 1906 in Baie-des-Sables. He was buried on 2 Apr 1906 in Baie-des-Sables.
Jean-Baptiste Thibault
Adéodat René Thibault
Victorine Thibault
Antoine Albert Thibault was born on 22 Aug 1910 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 23 Aug 1910 in Baie-des-Sables. He died in 1979 in Providence, RI.
Louis-Philippe Thibault
Anne-Marie Thibault
Raphael Sauveur Thibault
Gérard Maurice Thibault
M.-Ange Laurette Thibault

Pauline Thibault, daughter of Fabien sister of Magloire, date of birth unknown. Pauline married Moise Labrèche son of Daris Labrèche and Angéline on 9 May 1887 in St-Ann, Fall River, Bristol County, MA.

They had the following children:

M.-Louise Labrèche* (Alice?) was born 1 on 15 Dec 1892 in Ste Anne, FRMA. M.-Louise married Louis-Aimé Caron* son of Joseph Caron and Victoria Thibault on 20 Aug 1920 in St-Mathews, Fall-River, MA. Louis-Aimé was born on 13 Jul 1888 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane. He was christened 2 on 14 Jul 1888 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane. He died after 4 Mar 1955.

* M.Louise & Louise-Aimé were second cousins. Victoria was the daughter of Fabien's brother Theophile. Victoria and Pauline were first cousins.

Fabien Thibault,son of Fabien half brother of Magloire, was born on 5 Jan 1883 in New-Bedford, MA. He died on 25 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. He was buried on 28 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski.

Fabien married Emilienne Anne-Emilie Lepage daughter of Louis-Jacques Lepage and Georgiana Bouillon on 25 Jan 1910 in St-Germain, Rimouski. Emilienne was born on 24 Aug 1882 in Rimouski.

They had the following children:

Georges-Edouard Thibault was born on 3 Mar 1913 in Rimouski. He died on 7 Jun 2006 in Hôpital régional, Rimouski. He was buried on 12 Jun 2006 in Cathédrale St-Germain, Rimouski.
Fernande Thibault was born on 17 Jul 1914 in Rimouski. She died 1 on 5 Jul 1926 in Rimouski.
Gérard Thibault was born in 1917. He died 1 on 16 Jan 1969 in St-Germain, Rimouski.
Gilles Thibault was born on 15 Aug 1919 in Rimouski. He died on 2 Apr 1988 in Sept-Iles.
Jacqueline Thibault was born on 19 Oct 1921 in Rimouski. She died on 22 Nov 1995 in Foyer de Rimouski. She was buried on 27 Nov 1995 in Cathédrale, Rimouski.
Yvonne Thibault

Normandie

2010-06-06T08:27:00.000-07:00

Many of our ancestors came from the Normandie region of France. Today has been 66 years since the D-Day invasion freed France from the German invasion. Many young men died that day, but I also wonder about the French who died at the hands of the Germans or perhaps died in the bombings meant to save them.

Bayeux, France

Zacharie Cloutier - 11th Generation Grandfather

2010-06-03T17:53:00.000-07:00

Zacharie Cloutier (c. December 1589 or 1590 – September 17, 1677) was born in Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Mortagne-au-Perche, France. Cloutier was a French carpenter who emigrated to New France in the first wave of the Percheron Immigration, settled Beauport and started one of the foremost families in Quebec.

Cloutier was one of the nine children of Denis Cloutier and his first wife Renée Brière. The notary Mathurin Roussel of Mortagne called Cloutier the "family peacemaker," describing how Cloutier helped his father and brother solve a dispute involving inheritance. In the parish of his birth, Cloutier wedded Xainte Dupont of Feings (also known as Satine) in July of 1616. She had been born in 1596 to Paul-Michel and Perrine Dupont, and was the widow of Michel Lermusier.

In 1619 Henri II de Montmorency purchased the New France colony from his brother-in-law Henry II of Bourbon. Included amongst the laborers hired to assist Samuel de Champlain in “inhabiting, clearing, cultivating and planting” New France were the names of Zacharie and his father Denis. This group was not a group of settlers, but a group of laborers, who would return to France once their work had been completed. Several years later, however, Cloutier returned to Canada to help establish a new settlement at Beauport.

Cloutier was one of the first Frenchmen recruited by Robert Giffard de Moncel to expand the colony of New France by settling the Beauport area near Quebec City. Cloutier arrived in 1634 (at the age of 44) and either arrived with or was soon followed by his family. This was an important addition to the colony's population which numbered about 100 prior to his arrival. Cloutier worked with fellow emigre Jean Guyon du Buisson to construct Giffard's manor house (the oldest house in Canada) and other colonial buildings.

Cloutier and Guyon resisted for several years paying the fealty and homage owed to Giffard under the Seigneurial system of New France until the Governor of New France explicitly ordered them to do so. This was one of the first disputes against transplanting Old World hierarchy to the New World that would carry through the centuries even past the time of the British conquest.

In 1652 Cloutier received a grant of land from Governor Jean de Lauzon in Château-Richer. The land on which Cloutier lived in Beauport was known as La Clouterie (or La Cloutièrerie). In 1670 Nicolas Dupont de Neuville purchased this land from Cloutier. This action resulted in disagreements between Cloutier himself and his neighbor Jean Guyon and with Giffard, his seigneur. It was not until that time that the Cloutier family relocated to Château-Richer.

Zacharie Cloutier died 17 September 1677 at the age of about 87. His wife died shortly after. The couple is buried together in Château-Richer.

Together Zacharie and Xainte fathered six children, one of which died in infancy. The marriage of his daughter Anne to Robert Drouin is the oldest recorded marriage in Canada. In 1636 when her marriage contract was drawn, Anne was merely ten years of age. The religious sacrament of marriage was not performed until a year later on 12 July 1637. However, according to the contract drawn the year prior, the couple would only be allowed non-conjugal visits for the next two years.

Descendants

Zacharie Cloutier is the common ancestor of the Cloutiers of North America, some with spelling variations. By 1800, Cloutier had 10,850 French-Canadian descendants, the most of any Quebec colonist, according to marriage records studied by the Historical Demography Research Program of the Université de Montréal.

Cloutier is a common ancestor of:

Alanis Morissette
Alexandre Cloutier
Angelina Jolie
Avril Lavigne
Beyoncé Knowles
Celine Dion
Camilla the Duchess of Cornwall
Chelsea Clinton
Dan Cloutier
Diane Tell
the Dionne quintuplets
Gary Cloutier
George R. D. Goulet
Gilles Cloutier
Guy Cloutier
Guylaine Cloutier
Jacques Cloutier
James Haven
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Jack Kerouac
Laura de Jonge
Lynda Lemay
Madonna
Marcheline Bertrand
Réal Cloutier
Robert Goulet
Shania Twain
Solange Knowles
Suzanne Cloutier
T. J. Cloutier
Véronique Cloutier
Wade Morissette

Excerpted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacharie_Cloutier

Sargent Family Tree

2010-06-02T06:51:00.000-07:00

Keeping Things in the Family

2010-05-18T14:32:00.000-07:00

As you can see my Great Grandfather Malgoire Thibault is related to his wife my Great Grandmother Delia-Victoria Beaulieu. Magloire's Great Great Grandfather Charles-Francois Thibault is Delia's Great Great Great Grandmother Marie-Claire Thibault's brother. But wait. Look closely because Magloire's Great Great Grandmother Marie-Louise-Elizabeth LeClerc is sister to Delia's Great Great Great Grandfather Jean-Baptiste LeClerc. That's keeping things in the family.

Louis-Phillipe Sargent - 10th Generation Great Grandpa

2010-05-12T18:23:00.000-07:00

Louis-Phillipe Sargent (married Marguerite Lavoie great grandaughter of Marin Boucher)http://www.usgennet.org/usa/vt/county/windham/digory.html#yourline

Digory SARGENT was christened 22 Jun 1651 at Saint Germans, Co. Cornwall, England. He was the son of John SARGENT and Martha AXFORD. Digory died in the winter of 1703/1704 in Worcester MA. He was scalped and killed by the Indians and buried somewhere on his land at the foot of an oak tree by his belated rescuers.

He married (1) Constance JAMES 13 Oct 1693 in Boston MA. They were married by the famous Rev. Cotton Mather; he of Worcester, she of Boston. Constance was born about 1673. She was not mentioned in her husband's will of 17 Mar 1696, so it is believed that she had died before that date, probably in Worcester, Worcester, MA

Digory married (2) Mary ___________ about 1696. Her surname is unknown. She has traditionally been called Mary PARMENTER. However, we can find nothing to substantiate this claim. Her son Daniel, at his baptism in 1707, called her Mary or Marie OBEN; there is even less evidence to substantiate this. Mary died in the winter of 1703/1704 near Worcester MA.

Digory came from England to Boston and was a carpenter there. He was a soldier in King Philip's War and then settled in Worcester MA. The settlers there were warned of Indian attacks and were encouraged to leave their homes. Digory, who had lived there for a ten years, flatly refused. They were fine for a time, but the day came in the winter of 1703/04 when the Indians attacked. During the attack, Digory was killed and his wife and children were "carried" off by the Indians to Canada. Not too far away from their home, the Indians killed Digory's wife who was weak and probably unable to continue for the long journey. It was reported that a baby was killed too.

This mural was painted by artist Will S. Taylor in the main entry of Vernon Hill School in Worcester Mass.

The children were taken to Canada and held there. Martha, John, and Thomas were eventually ransomed from the Indians and were returned to Massachusetts. Martha married and had a family that lived in southern Vermont and New Hampshire. John married and lived in southern Vermont and it is through him that most of the "Sargent's" of today are descended. There is no record of a marriage or children for Thomas. Daniel and Mary stayed in Canada with the Indians and the French. No one has known what happened to Mary, although she is recorded as being with the Indians. Recently we have found some evidence indicating who she may have been; this is currently being investigated. The story of Daniel has for a long time been a silent one as well. In recent years, however, it has been discovered that he was the man known as Louis-Philippe Serien dit Langlais of Riviere Ouelle, Kamouraska Co., PQ and his "Langlais" descendants in number probably far surpass that of his brother, John.

Children of Digory and Constance (James) Sargent:

Martha SARGENT, was born about 1694 in Worcester MA. She died 1722 in Worcester, MA. She married Capt. Daniel SHATTUCK on 6 Apr 1719 in Westborough, Middlesex, MA (VR).

Children of Digory and Mary (---) Sargent:

Lt. John SARGENT, was born 1696/1697 in Worcester MA. He died 29 Mar 1748, about age 54 years, at Fort Dummer, Windham Co., VT. He married Abigail JONES on 4 Jul 1727 in Springfield, Hampden Co., MA.

Daniel SARGENT, born Aug 1699, and died before 3 Aug 1728. As stated, Daniel was carried away by the Indians and was probably about 4 years old at the time. He lived for a while with the Abenaki [Abenaquis] Indians. It is said that they "gave" him to the governor, Philippe de RIGAULT VAUDREUIL (or was perhaps "redeemed" by the him). Daniel was baptized on 6 Nov 1707, at the age of 8 and given the name Louis-Philippe Sargeant. This became corrupted to Serien, which is how it would have been pronounced. He had been given by this time, by the governor, to Robert POITIER to raise and he grew up in Poitier's household.

Daniel married Marguerite DeLAVOYE on 22 Jan 1718 in Riviere Ouelle, PQ, as Louis-Philippe Serien, Anglais de nation; marriage contract registered by JANNEAU on 14 Jun 1718, as Louis-Philippe Langlais, natif des cautes de Boston. Marguerite was the daughter of Jean DeLAVOYE and Madeleine BOUCHER. She died 4 Feb 1773 and was buried the next day, as "the Serien widow."

Mary SARGENT {24}, born 1700 in Worcester MA, died after 3 Aug 1728.

Thomas SARGENT {23}, born 1701/1702 Worcester MA, died after 3 Aug 1728; no record of him after that date.

_____ SARGENT {25}, born 1703/1704 Worcester MA, died in infancy 1703/1704 in Worcester MA. Taken captive by Indians 1704 and killed by them.

9th Generation Great Grandmother

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JEANNE SAVONNET

The following information is taken from the bulletin La Source published by the "Association des familles Soucy".

Origin

Jeanne, according to the marriage contract with Damien Bérubé, was the daughter of Jacques and of Antoinette (Thoinette) Babilotte. She was born in Paris around 1650, since she gave her age as 29 years at the time of her marriage in 1679. Some words in the marriage contract, which were illegible, finally have been cleaned of stains and reveal that she originated from the Marais du Temple quarter.

Date of birth

Thus far genealogical research has failed to precisely determine the date of birth of Jeanne as no birth or baptismal date have been found. The information of the census of 1681 complicate our research as Damien was noted to be 30 years old and Jeanne, 34. As we know that Damien was born in 1647, he must have been 34 years old in 1681. Jeanne who was 29 years old in 1679 must have been 30 or 31 years old in 1681 according to the date the census was taken. Alain Soucy has demonstrated that the census took place after the 24th of June 1681(2), probably in July. The date of birth of Jeanne would be between the day of the census and of the 21st of August. Her anniversary can not be before the census as she would be 31 years old instead of 30.

Savonnet, Savonet ou Sauvenier

The origin of the name Sauvenier comes from an annotation written in the margin of the marriage contract in order to summarize the content. This note reads: "m. Damien Bérubé & Jeanne Sauvenier". The calligraphy is more recent than that of the text of the document, this spelling is attributed to a reading error made by it's author.

As for Savonet, it seems that it is related to a regional accent. The name of Jeanne, after 1679, was written Savonet in religious documents but Savonnet in legal documents.

Meaning of Savonnet

The name Savonnet could have come from the word "savon" which, at the time, was a mixture used to dye one's hair red!

King's daughter?

Since her arrival in Canada, in the summer of 1670, coincided with the arrival of a contingent of the King's daughters ("filles du roi"), several authors believe that she was one of them. Because her first marriage contract with Jean Soucy was never found, it is impossible to know if she delivered the dowry to the King. We can only deduct that she was a King's daughter. It is even possible that she might have been married before she emigrated to New-France.

Marriage to Jean Soucy dit La Vigne

The marriage probably took place in the fall of 1670 but no documents relating to this union have ever been found. Jean and Jeanne resided firstly at "Isle-aux-Oies", and then at "L'Isle-aux-Grues" where their neighbour was Pierre Michel. On these two islands Jeanne gave birth to 4 children:

Anne, born and baptized on the 15th September 1671;

Pierre, b. 13 April 1673 and baptized on the 16th April 1673;

Marie-Anne b. 15 February 1677 and baptized on the 26th of April 1675;

Guillaume, b. 5 April 1677 and baptized on the 1st of May 1677.

Jean Soucy died between the 1st of May 1677, a date when he was present at the baptism of his son Guillaume, and the 1st of August 1679, the month of the second marriage of Jeanne.

Marriage to Damien Berube

On the 22nd of August 1679, Jeanne married Damien Berube, then 32 years old, of Rivière-Ouelle. The certificate of marriage is registered at the parish of Notre-Dame-de-Bonsecours of L'Islet-sur-Mer, but the ceremony probably took place at "L'Isle-aux-Grues". In effect, the witnesses Lord Paul Dupuis, Noël Langlois, Guillaume Lemieux and Jean Pelletier were all islanders.

Jeanne gave 6 children to Damien:

Jeanne-Marguerite, b. 27 October 1680 and baptized on the 15th of December 1680;

Pierre, b. 4 January 1682 and baptized on the 11th of February 1682;(corrected on August 01, 2009)

Ignace, b. in 1683;

Marie-Josephte, b. 28 October 1684 and baptized on the 6th of January 1685;

godfather, Pierre Hudon

Thérèse, b. in 1686

Mathurin, b. posthumous on the 17th of October 1688 and baptized on the 21st of November 1688; godfather, Mathurin Houallet; godmother, Anne Soucie.

On the 7th of March 1688, Jeanne buried her husband and, the following day, two of her daughters, Marie and Thérèse, under circumstances still unknown. Alone she assumed responsibilities for 8 children for the next 4 years.

Marriage to François Miville

Jeanne remarried in 1692 to François Miville and on the 18th of January 1694 she brought into this world an eleventh child, Marie-Françoise. She lost her third husband in 1711.

Death of Jeanne

She died on the 12th of March 1721 at the age of 70. Jeanne and Damien rest in the parish cemetery of Rivière-Ouelle.

Nicholas Hebert - Paris France

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"New Findings on Louis Hébert and His Family Before His Departure for New France" by Madame M. Jurgens in the "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogical Review, Vol. V, Nos. 1-2," 1975.

The following is the account of Madame Jurgens.

Nicolas was Executor of his mother-in-law's estate. The entire Pajot family eventually turned against Nicolas and his wife, accusing them, before the provost of Paris, of owing them various sums and objects. The matter was settled out of court to avoid the cost of a lawsuit. All parties appeared contented after that. The Saint-Mande house, with the vineyards, became the inheritance of Jacqueline and Nicolas.

Nicolas owned property that he purchased himself, The Coeur Royal and the Trois Piliers and the Mortier d'or, all on the south side of Rue Saint-Honore. Nicolas lived in the Mortier d'or ( the golden Mortar). This was where son, Louis, lived as a a boy. The house was ancient, being already in existence in 1415, inhabited by a wine merchant, Jehan de Paris, and later by the Teste family, owners of part of the quarter. The house was large, with double living quarters, of freestone. On the ground floor the store and back store were located, and on the side a vaulted alley which opened out to the street and ended with the stairs leading to the upper stories and the court; under the stairs, an iron grill protected the descent toward the cellars. The second floor, square, included two large rooms with fireplace, one facing the street and the other the court; a passageway served as entrance, and behind this passageway, a small room used for storage. The third floor, under the gable, was panelled facing the street,but square facing the court and included 5 small rooms, of which 3 had a fireplace. An attic topped it all, and the roof was tile. In the court, there was another small living quarters which, thanks to a passageway in back of the houses of the Trois Piliers and the Aigle royal, had an exit to Rues des Poulies. The living quarters facing Rue Saint-Honore still exist at present, at No. 129, slightly altered, because it was raised by 2 floors and decorated by balconies at each of the 3 facade windows, toward the end of the XVIIIth century. At the present time (1975), two stores occupy the ground floor (one is lodged in the old vaulted alley) and access to the apartment of each floor is obtained by a new stairway built at No. 20 of the Rue du Louvre, at the site which previously served as an exit for the outbuildings of the Mortier d'or.

Financial worries plagued Nicolas, as it did the rest of the bourgeois of Paris, as it was a troubled period, with the financial requirements of the religious wars and the League overwhelming it. The first sign of it was Nicolas' sale of Coeur royal on 27 July 1569. The following year he was forced to mortgage his home, Mortier d'or. After Nicolas' remarriage, besides his own difficulties, he had to resolve those of his new wife and step-children. He had some of his goods seized over an inheritance of his new sister-in-law.

The year 1588 brought the most critical days in Paris for the League. The kingdom was in the throes of war, and Paris was living in an air of insurrection. The representatives of the 16 Paris quarters had formed into a council within the League. King Henry the Third was forced to flee Paris, which was bristling with barricades. The beorgeoisie favored the League, and Nicolas was one of them. Nicolas was close friends with one of the fiercest orators of the League, Jacques de Cueilly, the parish priest of Saint-Germain-l'Auxerrois. Jacques was likely one of the stepsons of the first marriage of Nicolas' wife, Jacqueline. The temporary victory of the League at Paris did not end bad times. In 1589 the King was assassinated. In 1590 the seige of Paris began, with all it's consequences, misery, famine and the end of all commerce.

With the seige of Paris going on in 1589, Nicolas was forced to borrow a larger sum, which he was unable to repay as agreed. He was forced by the courts to repay the loan, and had to sell his share of Mortier d'or. He was unable to pay all he owed, and was sentenced to spend two years in prison, in the Chatelet. He was so poorly cared for in prison that his son-in-law, Maheut, had to pay the rate of 30 ecus per year for food and the jailer 26 ecus. When Nicolas got out of prison he was so ill that doctors were not able to heal him.

What became of Nicolas? His second wife, Marie, had died. He did not try to recapture the habits and memories of the past. He crossed the Seine River and established himself in the new quarter of Saint-Germain-des-Pres. With him was his third wife, Renee Savoreau, of whom nothing is known except that she had many financial interests in the Chartres region, and so likely came from there.

The last record of Nicolas' life was at Chartres, where Nicolas went to carry out a transaction regarding a tennis court, Rue de l'Autriche, and lands located at Saint-Denis de Champfer. His hand was shaky and his signature incomplete. This was his last appearance on 8 January 1600. He was to disappear in the course of the year, without a will or inventory, as he was without property.

The First Habitant

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1617: An apothecary by the name of Louis Hébert decides to bring his family and claim a piece of land in the vicinity of Québec city for farming purposes. He thus becomes the first "Habitant" of Canada.

Who is Louis Hebert? He is our ancestor via 3rd generation Jean-Francois Thibault who was married to Angelique Proulx who was Louis great great great granddaughter via her maternal grandmother Marie-Francois Hebert.

Louis Gaston Hebert was born in 1575 at 129 Rue du Honore, Paris, France (I stayed a 10 min walk down Rue d'Or from the home of my ancestor last year); the son of Nicolas Hebert and Jacqueline Pajot. His family was quite affluent, with ties to the Royal Court of Catherine de’ Medici; where his father was the official druggist and spice merchant to the Queen. In this capacity, he would have had access to the royal palace; and though a bourgeois; would have been respected as a gentleman of the court. But Louis could not depend on a large inheritance and had to make his own way. http://many-roads.com/2010/03/07/louis-hebert/

Marie Rollet, wife of Louis Hebert, QC’s first settler; d. 1649 at QC In 1617, with her husband and three children she came from Paris to QC where she found starvation, sickness, and threats of Indian attack. A year after their arrival, says SAGARD, the first marriage solemnized in QC with the rites of the church took place, that of their daughter Anne and Etienne Jonquet. Anne died in childbirth the following year, but there is no record of the child.

Marie Rollet aided her husband in caring for the sick and shared his interest in the savages, concerning herself especially with the education of Indian children. In 1627, at the baptism of CHOMINA’S son, Naneogauchit, which the priests were striving to make an impressive occasion, she feasted a crowd of visiting savages out of her big brewing kettle. Her name appears often as godmother at the baptism of converted savages. Two years after the death of Louis Hebert, on 16 May 1629, she married Guillaume Hubou. After seeking Champlain’s advice, she and her family (i.e., her second husband, her 15-year-old son Guillaume, and her daughter and son-in-law Guillaume Couillard) remained in QC during the English occupation and kept alive among the neighboring savages the memory of French friendship. After the return of the French in 1632, her house became the home of Indian girls given to the Jesuits for training. She died in 1649, leaving her husband, her one surviving child, Guillemette Hebert, and a number of grandchildren. She was buried at QC 27 May 1649. http://many-roads.com/2010/03/09/marie-rollet/

Marie-Francoise Hebert (Angelique Proulx's maternal grandmother) was born on January 27, 1638, in the small Quebec settlement; the daughter of Guillaume Hebert and Helene Desportes. Her paternal grandparents were none other than Louis Ganton Hebert and Marie Rollet, and though Louis only lived for a short time at the French Trading Post, Marie kept the family together through epidemics, war and even British occupation.

Her maternal grandparents were also among the first would-be colonists, but never survived the deportation by the Kirke Brothers. However, Marie’s mother, Helene, did return with her aunt and uncle, Marguerite Langlois and Abraham Martin, when the French post was returned.

On November 20, 1651, Marie-Francoise, then just thirteen; married Guillaume Fournier, a baker brought to the colony; and the couple would have fifteen children. Guillaume was described as a rather disagreeable man, and though his marriage to Marie gave him control of a fair bit of land; it seems that he was always fighting for more. Born in 1619 at Coullemer, Orne, Normandy, France; he was the son of Gilles Fournier and Noelle Gagnon.

Taking after her grandmother, Marie-Francoise was very active in the community and for many years acted as a midwife to the small settlement. The family eventually settled at St. Thomas de La Pointe A La Caille, in Montmagny, Quebec; where Guillaume died on October 25, 1699 and Marie-Francoise on March 16, 1716.
http://many-roads.com/2009/08/29/marie-francoise-hebert/

Those dit's

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You may have noticed in the previous post that Amable Beaulieu's name seem differerent than his father. Adoption? No, we have another explanation

.Understanding Dit names

Found primarily in France, New France (French-Canada, Louisiana, etc.), and Scotland, dit names are essentially an alias tacked on to a family name or surname. Dit in French is a form of the word dire, which means "to say," and in the case of dit names is translated loosely as "that is to say," or "called." Therefore, the first name is the family's original surname, passed down to them by an ancestor, while the "dit" name is the name the person/family is actually called or known as. Dit names are used by families, not specific individuals, and are usually passed down to future generations, either in place of the orginal surname, or in addition to it.

Why a dit name? Dit names were often adopted by families to distinguish them from another branch of the same family. Interestingly, many dit names derived from military service, where early French military rules required a nom de guerre, or nickname, for all regular soldiers. The specific dit name may have been chosen for many of the same reasons as the original surname - as a nickname based on trade or physical characteristics, to identify the ancestral place of origin (Andre Jarret de Beauregard, where Beauregard refers to the ancestral home in the French province of Dauphine), etc.

A dit name can be legally used to replace the family's original surname, so you may find an individual listed with a dit name, or under either the original surname or the dit name. Dit names may also be found reversed with the original surname, or as hyphenated surnames.

•Hudon dit Beaulieu

•Beaulieu dit Hudon

•Hudon Beaulieu

•Beaulieu Hudon

•Hudon-Beaulieu

•Beaulieu-Hudon

•Hudon

•Beaulieu

When recording a dit name in your family tree software, it is generally standard practice to record it in its most common form - e.g. Hudon dit Beaulieu. A standardized list of dit names with their common variants can be found in Rene Jette's Répertoire des Noms de Famille du Québec" des Origines à 1825 and Msgr Cyprien Tanguay's Dictionnaire genealogique des familles canadiennes (Volume 7). Another extensive source is The dit Name: French Canadian Surnames, Aliases, Adulterations, and Anglicizations by Robert J. Quentin. When the name is not found in one of the above sources, you can use a phone book (Québec City or Montréal) to select the most common form, or just record it in the form most often used by your ancestors.

The Marin Boucher connection

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Marin Boucher was born in the beautiful town of Mortagne in the Perché region of Normandy, France. The settlers that came from Perché to New France were generally hard workers and entrepreneurs. Marin Boucher was one of these.

Marin-Galéran Boucher played a prominent role in the establishment of the town of Beauport. He was a mason by trade and was responsible for the building of the town. Marin Boucher is the ancestor of most of the Boucher families and in particular those of the county of Karamouska.

He married twice before coming as a settler to "Nouvelle-France" (Canada) in 1634. His first wife was Julienne Baril. She died in 1627 after giving her husband seven children. In 1629, at the age of 42, Marin married 23 year-old Périnne Malet (Mallet) in Mortagne. Before he left, in 1633, Marin had sold his house in Mortagne to Jean Guion (Guyon) who, too, was to emigrate to New France

After the birth of their second child in 1634, Marin and Périnne came to Kebec (the Indian word for the place at the narrowing of the river). They arrived with all nine of Marin's children on August 9, 1634, and a contingent of other colonists from Perché. Samuel de Champlain himself provided shelter for these new settlers at his house in the fort of Québec. This compound was located on the rocky bank of the Saint Laurence River, just below the high cliffs which make up the palisades of Quebec.

http://www.bruce-bounds.com/thebigone/aqwn230.htm

We are connected to Marin through 2 lines via Delia Beaulieu our Great Grandmother.

The first line (9th Generations) is through Marin's son Jean-Galleran Boucher down to Delia's father Amable Beaulieu.

The second line (8 Generations) is through Pierre Boucher through to Delia's mother Georgina Beaupre.

More on the Second Generation

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Francois Thibault was noted as being a domestique of a Robert Pare. This is the Robert Plant who Francois was indentured to. He came over from France on the Le Cat de Holland.

François Thibault, 18, committed, servant, is identified in Beaupré in 1666 by Robert Pare. The following year, he has not moved. On October 14, 1670, married at St. Anne de Beaupre, Elisabeth Lefebvre. They have twelve children. In the census of 1681, François Thibault, 34, is living in Berthier-en-Bas. Francois Thibault was baptized at The Fleet, in the church of St. Catherine, Friday, June 28, 1647, with godparents Tibaut Francis and Mary Gautier. His parents, Louis Thibault & Renee Gauthier, were married in this church Thursday, October 29, 1643.

As we mentioned earlier, Robert Paré decided to work at farming. By the beginning of 1667, he had 7 head of cattle in his stable and 20 arpents of cleared land on his farm. He was indeed a success! He had obtained the services of an indentured person, Francois Thibault, originally from Sainte-Catherine de la Flotte on the Ile de Ré. This François worked at least 3 years on Robert’s farm; then he married at Sainte-Anne on 14 October 1670. His descendants are numerous in the region of Montmagny. In the census of 1681 it was recorded that Paré had fourteen animals in the stables, 30 arpents of land under cultivation and 4 guns that were ready and waiting for the moment to shoot wild game and birds.

and from the contract of marriage (Francois)

"Were present in person their son Francois Thibault Louis Thibault of the major town of Fleet parish of St. Catherine in the Isle of Ré and Renee Gauthier's father and mother on one hand and daughter Elizabeth Lefebvre Guillaume Lefebvre and deffunt Barbara Viot residing in Paris parish of St. Gervais.

"The bride said it was brought into the community until the sum of two hundred pounds, half of which come at the said community and the other half will serve her own nature and his family on his side and lined.

"And also the sum of fifty pounds which his Majesty gave her account of her marriage to him will also own nature to her and hers on his side and lineage.

"Done in Quebec in the said house of the said lady Gasnier, one thousand six hundred seventy afternoon, the third day of October.

The marriage of Francois Thibault and Elizabeth Agnes Lefebvre, was recorded October 14, 1670 at the Sainte-Anne-du-Petit-Cap. (3)

"The year of our Lord Jesus Christ on 14 October 1670, after publication of the benches of marriage and permission of Bishop Despétrie other. I received their mutual consent not having found no impediment between Francis and Elizabeth Thibault agnes. And in the presence of several witnesses, and across from the Holy Church, John Caron, and Pierre Robert Pare Piccard inhabitants of Ste-Anne.

F. Fillion missionary priest

Morin priest.

Commemorative Plaque Saint Catherine in the Île de Ré http://homepage.mac.com/benoit.ladouceur/michel/ancetrethibault.html

Relationships

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We are related to some famous people. Celine Dion, Camilla Parker Bowles, Angela Jolie, Madonna, Mario Lemieux, even (ugh) Hilary Clinton. Ok that's my commentary and maybe not how some of you might feel. Go here http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogieSearch.aspx?lng=en and search for your name (last then first) and jot down your file #. Now go here http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogyLinker.aspx?lng=en and plug your file # in the first or second box then click on one of the pictures to do some comparisons. Hey, we're also related to the Prime Minister of Canada and Ellen Degeneres.

Distant "Out" Laws

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Excerpt from Before the King's Daughters: The Filles à Marier, 1634-1662

By Peter J. Gagné

Banne, Gillette
Gillette Banne was born about 1636 in Argences (arrondissement of Caen, diocese of Bayeux), Normandy, daughter of Marin Banne and Isabelle Boire or Bour.

She came to Canada in or before 1649.

About 1649, Gillette married Marin Chauvin dit Lafortune in Trois-Rivières.

Marin is from Le Mesnil in the parish of Saint-Médard-de-Réno (canton of Tourouvre, arrondissement of Mortagne), Perche.1 On 08 March 1648 in Tourouvre, notary Choiseau drew up an enlistment contract for Marin to go to New France in the service of Noël Juchereau (see Appendix). Pierre Juchereau acted as agent on behalf of his brother, enlisting Marin for three years at the salary of 40 livres per year, with an advance of 10 livres . This low salary may be due to the fact that Marin was an unskilled laborer.

Gillette and Marin had a daughter, Marie, who was baptized 08 September 1650 at Trois-Rivières. She was to be their only child, for Marin Chauvin died at Trois-Rivières some time before 07 June 1651, when Monsieur d.Ailleboust granted Gillette of an arpent in the town site of Trois-Rivières, between Sébastien Dodier on the southwest and the palisade on the northeast, on the condition that she build a house and have it re-enclosed with a good fence.

In 1653, Gillette married Jacques Bertault in Trois-Rivières. Neither spouse could sign the marriage contract drawn up 27 July by notary Ameau. A locksmith, Jacques was born about 1626 in Les Essars (arrondissement of La Roche-sur-Yon, diocese of Luçon), Poitou, the son of merchant Thomas Bertault and Catherine Coulonne.

He and Gillette had six children. Son Jacques was baptized at Trois-Rivières 25

November 1654, followed by Marguerite (21 December 1655) and Suzanne (18

December 1657). Élisabeth-Thérèse was baptized 23 January 1659, followed by Jeanne (29 March 1660) and Nicolas (26 February 1662). Gillette Banne was confirmed 22 May 1664 at Trois-Rivières. Sadly, son Jacques died some time before the 1666 census. Daughter Élisabeth married Julien Latouche on 12 August 1671. While Élisabeth was a mere 12 years old, her husband was 30. Latouche was unsuccessful at farming his land at Trois-Rivières, and Jacques and Gillette often had to send food to the couple or have Élisabeth come eat with them. What is more, Latouche allegedly beat Élisabeth. The beatings and failure at farming were both apparently the result of heavy drinking on the part of Latouche. And so, with the apparent knowledge and complicity of their daughter, Gillette and Jacques poisoned their son-in-law Julien Latouche.

1 Two men named Marin Chauvin that could possibly be the one here were baptized at Saint-Médard. The first was baptized 24 February 1609, the son of Jean Chauvin (mother.s name omitted). The second (and more likely one) was baptized 16 March 1625, the son of Nicolas Chauvin and Catherine Piedgars

Both Gillette Banne and Jacques Bertault were sentenced to death by the criminal court of Québec City for the murder of their son-in-law. They appealed to the Conseil Souverain . Élisabeth was also found guilty of the crime, but did not appeal to the Conseil Souverain . The Council rejected the appeal and sentenced Gillette and Jacques to be hanged. Before the hanging, they were to have a rope attached to their necks and be lead . nu en chemise . with a torch in their hands to the doors of the church, where they were to kneel and beg forgiveness for their crimes to God and the King. They were then to be hanged upon scaffolds set up in the Grande Place in the haute ville . In addition, Jacques was to have his arms and legs broken with a rod, which Gillette and Élisabeth were forced to witness before Gillette.s execution. After his execution, Jacques. body was to be displayed on a wheel at the Cap-aux-Diamants to serve as an example. All three were collectively sentenced to a fine of 60 livres , half to be paid to the Récollets to pray for the repose of the victim.s soul and half to the King, with the remainder of their property to be confiscated by the State. And so Gillette Banne and Jacques Bertault were executed in Québec City at four o.clock in the afternoon on 09 June 1672.

Given her age, the Conseil Souverain took pity on Élisabeth and only sentenced her to make a public apology and to be a witness to the execution of her parents. The Council also decreed that the surplus of the confiscated property (after court costs) would be given to Nicolas and Jacques Bertault, minor children of Gillette and Jacques.

Eleventh Generation

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Joseph John Thibault (1930-2009) born 4 Jan 1930 in Dedham, MA died 11 December 2009. Married Helen E. Thibault April 11, 1953. Helen was born in November 1929. They had 6 children

M. Thibault - born 1954
J. Thibault - born 1955
M. Thibault - born 1959
J. Thibault - born 1960
A.. Thibault - born 1962
L. Thibault - born 1967

Tenth Generation

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Joseph John Thibault (1897-1948) was born June 1897 in Dedham, MA. He married Mary Alice O'Neil date unknown. Mary Alice was born 24 February 1901 and died June 1971. They had 3 children

Claire F. Thibault born 15 Apr 1923 died 16 Jun 1997 married Thomas J. Millin

Joseph John Thibault, Jr

Joseph John Thibault - birth 4 January 1930 died 11 December 2009 married Helen born 1929-(eleventh generation)

Laura Thibault - birth not available still living married Peter D'Amelio

Ninth Generation

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Magloire Thibault (1867-1958) was born 20 January 1867 in Bai de Sables Quebec, Canada. He married Delia Beaulieu in Fall River on October 19 1891. Delia was born 17 Dec 1872 and died 13 May 1919 of a burst appendix. Magloire died 8 Jan 1958. They had 7(?) Children

Delia Grace Thibault born in November 1893 died February 5, 1947 married Ora Darling (1910) and William Sullivan (about 1914)
Magloire Thibault born 1 November 1893 died 4 September 1894 (was this a twin of Delia?)*

Lyda R Thibault born 1896 died January 20, 1957 married Joseph Conroy
Joseph John Thibault born June 1897 died November 1948 married Mary Alice O'Neil (tenth generation)
Laura Thibault born 1899 died November 1918 ruptured appendix
John Thibault 2 September 1903-29 October 1903 (buried in Dedham Cemetery)

Arlene (Mary-Alice?) born 14 Dec. 1908 died 1958 married John Coolidge (1927)

Eighth Generation

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Fabien Thibault (1841-1899) was born on 6 Nov 1841 in St-Simon, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 21 Nov 1841 in St-Simon, Rimouski. He died on 17 Apr 1899 in Baie-des-Sables. He married Emilie Gendron daughter of Bénoni Gendron and Adélaïde Morin on 1 Sep 1862 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane Ouest. Emilie died in 1875.They had the following 7 children:

Joseph Thibault was born on 27 Sep 1863 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 28 Sep 1863 in Baie-des-Sables.
Magloire Thibault. Magloire married Victoria Beaulieu daughter of Amabilis Beaulieu and Georgina Beaupré in Oct 1891 in St-Matthew, Fall River, MA. (ninth generation)
Eliza Thibault. Eliza married 1 Olivier Talon son of Télesphore Talon and Flavie Boulanger on 10 Jan 1892 in St-Matthew, Fall River, MA.
Cyrille Thibault
Elmire Thibault was born on 29 Aug 1872 in Baie-des-Sables. She was christened on 2 Sep 1872 in Baie-des-Sables. She died on 20 Mar 1947 in Montréal. She was buried on 24 Mar 1947 in Repos St-François-d'Assise. Elmire married 1 Adhémar Bellavance Gagné son of Hubert Gagné and Louise Marcoux on 17 Jul 1900 in St-Germain, Rimouski.
Jean-Baptiste Thibault was born on 16 Apr 1874 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 16 Apr 1874 in Baie-des-Sables.
Pauline Thibault

Fabien married Célina Deschenes daughter of Benoit Deschênes and Louise Lévesque on 8 Jul 1879 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane Ouest. Célina was born in Baie-des-Sables. They had the following children:

Aurielle Thibault born after 1881 died on 12 Oct 1940 in Montréal. She was buried on 15 Oct 1940 in Repos St-François-d'Assise. Aurélie married Napoléon Laporte son of Jean-Baptiste Laporte and Edwidge Savaria.
Fabien Thibault was born on 5 Jan 1880 in Rimouski, Quebec (1881 Canadian Census). He died on 25 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. He was buried on 28 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. Fabien married Emilienne Anne-Emilie Lepage daughter of Louis-Jacques Lepage and Georgiana Bouillon on 25 Jan 1910 in St-Germain, Rimouski. Emilienne was born on 24 Aug 1882 in Rimouski.

Fabien married Claire Banville daughter of Louis Banville and Domithilde Lévesque on 5 Aug 1884 in Baie des Sables, Matane-Ouest.

Seventh Generation

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Hilaire Thibault (1804-) was born in 22 April 1804. He married Basillisse Rioux on 18 February 1828 in Trois-Pistoles, Canada. Basillisse was born 25 December 1805 in Trois-Pistoles. They had 15 children 4 died in infancy

Hilarion Thibault 4 Jan 1829 in Trois-Pistoles Florence Gagné
Desanges Thibault born on 21 Mar 1830 died on 26 Feb 1897 marriedLouis Dion
Magloire Thibault was born on 17 Mar 1831 in St-Fabien, Rimouski. He was christened on 18 Mar 1831 in St-Fabien, Rimouski.
Jean-Baptiste Thibault born on 19 Apr 1832 married M.-Anne Gagnon
Théophile Thibault born on 11 Oct 1833 married Célina Michaud
Marcel Thibault born on 29 Mar 1835 married Sara Métayer
François Thibault born on 2 May 1836 married Marie Caron
Michel Thibault was born on 8 May 1837 in S.-Simon, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 9 May 1837 in S.-Simon, Rimouski. He died on 3 Jun 1837 in S.-Simon, Rimouski. He was buried 2 on 5 Jun 1837 in S.-Simon, Rimouski.
Honoré Thibault born 26 May 1838 in St-Simon, Rimouski married 13 Aug 1863 Basilice Marquis
Ferdinand Thibault born on 24 Jul 1839 married Philomène Lévesque
Sara Thibault born on 14 Nov 1840 married Felix PIerre Dastous
Fabien Thibault born born on 6 Nov 1841 died on 17 Apr 1899 married Emilie Gendron (eighth generation)
Pierre Thibault was born on 7 May 1843 in St-Simon, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 14 May 1843 in St-Simon, Rimouski.
Napoléon Thibault was born on 14 Dec 1845 in Trois-Pistoles. He was christened 1 on 17 Dec 1845 in Trois-Pistoles. Napoléon married 1 Délima Ross daughter of Paul Ross and Delima Banville on 12 Feb 1872 in Ste-Flavie, Mont-Joli.
Appoline Pauline born on 24 Mar 1847 died 19 Sep 1904 married Cyrille Pineau

http://nantibo.philgay.qc.ca/fel/pafg35.htm#13985

Sixth Generation

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Hilarion Thibault (1772-) was born 21 October 1772 in L'Islet-sur-Mer, Canada. He married Marthe-Therese Lefebvre on 25 November 1794 at the Notre-Dame-du-Bon-Secours, L'Islet-sur-Mer, Quebec. Marthe-Therese was born 09 November 1774 in L'Islet-sur-Mer. Her date of death is unknown. They had 13 children. Hilarion date of death is also unknown.

Euphorisine Thibault born 1798 died 20 May 1837 married Honorie Fournier
Francois Thibault born 28 May 1799 died 26 Mar 1877 married Francoise Fortin and Marcelline LaVoie
Hilarion-Hilarie Thibault born 1800 death unknown married
Angele Vaillancourt
Louis-Marie Thibault born 1801 death unknown married Marie-Soulange Gauvin
Hilaire Thibault born 1803 death unknown married Basillisse Rioux (seventh generation)
Marcelline Thibault born 1804 death 14 Feb 1877 married Celestin Villancourt
Chrysostome Thibault born 07 Oct 1806 death unknown no known marriage
Chrysologue Thibault born 14 Sep 1808 death unknown married Marie-Josephe
Coulumbe
Joseph Thibault 1809 died 1 May 1889 married Angele Cote
Angelique Thibault born 15 May 1810 death unknown no known marriage
Dominique Thibault 23 Jun 1811 death unknown marriage unknown
Denis-Gabriel Thibault 04 Oct 1812 death unkown marriage unknown
Isabelle (Elizabeth?)Thibault born 12 Sep 1814 death 08 Dec 1832 marriage Isaac Villancourt

Joseph Thibault

daughter M.-Angèle Thibault

Though Genealogy of Canada does not list Joseph as a son, I believe it is mistaken as it lists an Isabelle who is Mary-Elisabeth or just Elisabeth. My information is based on http://nantibo.philgay.qc.ca/fel/pafg15.htm#17678 and the pictures posted in pictures on the Genealogy of Canada site in the photos section that referred to Joseph.